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7 Best Pistol-Caliber Carbines (PCC): 9mm & Beyond

Pistol-caliber carbines (PCCs): they’re not pistols, but they’re not quite rifles either.

Sig Sauer MPX K Shooting
Sig Sauer MPX K Shooting

Some people might tell you that they’re rifle-wannabes that are unnecessary and impractical, but I think pistol-caliber carbines are optimized for self-defense, competition, and FUN.

We’re going to look particularly at pistol-caliber carbines for self-defense…particularly at home where these things really shine.

Popular 9mm Ammo
Popular 9mm Ammo

Plus some basics and layout just what a pistol caliber carbine is…and why you might want one. And of course, our favorites from standalone PCCs to AR-platform versions.

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PCCs vs Rifles

If you need a home defense gun that will be used primarily in open space to secure perimeters and neutralize threats outdoors, the AR-15 and AK-47 are great choices.  

Kalashnikov USA KP9 Left Side
Kalashnikov USA KP9

However, indoor home defense scenarios are a little different.

You want a gun that’s smaller and allows for maneuverability in tight areas, like around doorways and down hallways. Most pistol caliber carbines are going to be shorter than any long gun, save maybe some of the nice bullpup shotguns and rifles out there.

Even with a suppressor.

Best 9mm and Multi-Caliber Pistol Suppressors
Best 9mm and Multi-Caliber Pistol Suppressors

Simply put, you don’t want to lug around a bulky rifle or shotgun if you’re moving through a confined space.  In addition, when comparing a pistol-caliber carbine specifically to the AK-47, you also get an added benefit of lower recoil.

PCCs vs Handguns

The biggest advantage that the pistol-caliber carbine has over your sidearm is stability.

Some of you may be crack shots who can shoot the wings off a fly with your trusty pistol.  

Sig Sauer MPX K Shooting
Sig Sauer MPX K Shooting

For the rest of us, handgun accuracy tends to drop when shooting at a target from 15 – 25 yards away, especially in dangerous situations where adrenaline and stress levels are through the roof.

For these types of scenarios, pistol-caliber carbines give you that added stability to hit your mid-range target with more accuracy.

Another benefit of pistol-caliber carbines is that many of them are designed to work interchangeably with some of your favorite handguns, so you can use the same magazine for your PCC as you can for your Glock.

Aero Precision EPC Shooting
Aero Precision EPC with Glock Mag

Check out this video of how to shoot pistol-caliber carbines in a home defense situation.

Choosing a Good Pistol-Caliber

There are some great home defense shotguns out there, but a shotgun might not always be the best option.

Popular Pistol Calibers
Popular Pistol Calibers

The average pistol-caliber carbine shoots either 9mm, .40 S&W cartridges, or .45 ACP, and less common are .380 and 357 SIG cartridges.

We even have a bigger bore 10mm one in there for you.

The benefit to this is that you’ll find no shortage of ammo and in most cases, your pistol-caliber carbine is more affordable to shoot than the average rifle.

9mm AR-9 Uppers
9mm AR-9 Uppers

Now that we’ve covered some of the basics about pistol-caliber carbines, let’s have a look at some popular carbine models.

We’ll start off with non-AR PCCs and then dive into some AR-9s (9mm ARs…see, it kinda makes sense).

Best Pistol-Caliber Carbines

1. Sig Sauer MPX K

There’s a lot of choices with PCCs now and Sig’s MPX has always been up there. But now they are in their unofficial 3rd generation with all the kinks worked out.

Sig Sauer MPX K Charging Handle
Sig Sauer MPX K Charging

You get all the familiar AR-15 controls but now fully ambidextrous.

Sig Sauer MPX K Receiver
Sig Sauer MPX K Receiver

But with a short-stroke gas piston system that keeps everything a little tidier than the AR’s direct impingement.

Another great thing is that there’s no buffer tube system so you can add a folding stock/brace system.

It’s been super reliable for us and shoots very pleasantly…especially with a suppressor.

Sig Sauer MPX K Shooting
Sig Sauer MPX K Shooting

And not like it has an extra advantage at night…but we have some really cool night footage.

Sig Sauer MPX K Night Shoot
Sig Sauer MPX K Night Shoot

There’s a bunch more to say so check out our full review of the Sig Sauer MPX K.

There’s also a full video review with it too!

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2. CZ Scorpion EVO Series

The CZ Scorpion EVO series encompasses both carbines and shorter pistol-braced variants.

Micro Scorpion with all the upgrades
Micro Scorpion with All the Upgrades

The CZ Scorpion EVO 3 is a 9mm carbine that takes CZ’s classic Scorpion machine pistol and updates it to a modern (and civilian legal) design that is sleeker, and more reliable.

Best Pick Pistol Caliber Carbine
833
at Kentucky Gun Co.

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

While the pistol variant gives you that maneuverability.

I’ll save some space here and just send you to our complete CZ Scorpion EVO review…suffice to say its an excellent take on a classic and it will absolutely earn its keep in a home defense scenario.

3. Kalashnikov USA KP-9

Fancy a 9mm AK that’s as close as you can get to the Russian Vityaz used by special forces?

Vityaz at Interpolitex, Wikipedia
Vityaz at Interpolitex, Wikipedia

Check out the Kalashnikov USA KP-9.

Kalashnikov USA KP9 Reload
Kalashnikov USA KP9 Reload

This might be the most fun PCC we’ve tested so far!

Controls are typical AK but we opted for a slightly upgraded safety selector lever that lets you lock back the bolt.

Kalashnikov USA KP9 Selector
Kalashnikov USA KP9 Selector

However you don’t get any last round bolt hold open (LRBHO).

But you’ll forget that when you’re tearing up the range. It’s a direct blowback system but you can’t tell with how it stays on target.

And yes…it loves being suppressed.

Kalashnikov USA KP9 Shooting
Kalashnikov USA KP9 Shooting

How about mags?

It uses proprietary Vityaz ones (sorry Glock fanboys). They are reasonably priced around $30 from K-USA. We also got some third party PUFGUN mags but they didn’t slam home as nicely.

Words can’t do it justice…check out our full review of the KP-9 here.

1115
at Ky Gun Co

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

And of course the video:

4. PSA AK-V

Looking for a home-grown version that’s an homage to the Vityaz? Check out PSA’s AK-V.

AKV up hill
PSA AK-V with Extendos

It’s not an exact duplicate of the VP-9 but rather an homage. However there’s some nice additions like a last round bolt hold open and a buffer system in the back.

The LRBHO itself is worth the price of admission!

Plus a different mag-catch and it takes affordable & plentiful Scorpion mags.

PSA AKV, Mag Catch
PSA AKV, Mag Catch

There were some initial hiccups in manufacturing but PSA has gotten it dialed in now. And the are staying in stock for a few days instead of minutes. I’d still sign up for alerts for special model combos.

Again we had a blast shooting it and can’t wait to suppress it soon.

Check out our full review of the AK-V here.

Boom…video!

789
at Palmetto State Armory

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

5. Kel-Tec SUB-2000

The Kel-Tec SUB-2000 is a semi-automatic carbine that supports 9mm or .40 S&W cartridges, depending on your caliber preferences.  

Kel Tec Sub 2000
Kel Tec Sub 2000

There’s a lot to love about the SUB-2000 carbine.  For starters, before you buy the gun, you can choose which handgun magazine that you want it to take so that you can use the carbine interchangeably with your favorite sidearm.

Compatible magazines include various Smith & Wesson, Sig Sauer, Beretta, and Glock handguns.

80% Arms GST-9 Glock Mags
Glock Mags

Don’t let its simple design fool you. The SUB-2000 is anything but basic

When it comes to comfort and convenience, the SUB-2000 earns a gold star.  It weighs a total of 4.25 pounds without ammo and is 30.5” in length, and it can also be collapsed and stored away in a compact location.

Great features include:

  • Fiber optic front sight for easily lining up targets.
  • The bolt is located underneath the buttstock in a convenient and out-of-the-way position.
  • Tons of aftermarket parts available.
Best Backpacker PCC
489
at Guns.com

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

The SUB-2000 is a solid gun that combines power, accuracy, and comfort, and is a great gun for its price.

Also, since it’s a Kel-Tec, you’re protected under a lifetime warranty in the event of something malfunctioning.

Check out our full in-depth review.  

6. CMMG Banshee

The CMMG Banshee utilizes a proprietary “radial delayed blowback” gas system instead of gas blowback. Whatever it is…it seriously lowers the recoil especially during rapid fire.

There’s 9mm and other “regular” calibers…but we hands-on tested a big boy 10mm version.

Banshee Side
CMMG 10mm Banshee

It ran like a scalded dog, ate up that extra 10mm recoil, and looked pretty to finish it all out.

There’s different levels of CMMG guns from the 100 to 200 and 300. We had the 300 so everything was already decked out. However prices go up as fast as the model numbers!

Check the full review of the CMMG Banshee 300 in 10mm or even the 5.7x28mm version. But remember it also comes in 9mm!

CMMG 5.7 with Scope
CMMG 5.7 with Scope

7. PSA 9mm PX-9

Our Editor’s Pick for an entry-level 9mm AR-15 PCC that is reliable and takes Glock mags is the PX-9.

Apologies for the CA-neutered version below. It’s been freed since!

PSA 9mm PX-9
PSA 9mm PX-9

Though it doesn’t have last round bolt hold open…it gives you the familiarity of the AR platform and all the potential upgrade potential.

Check it out in a night-time competition!

And with a slightly modded upper!

And our full review where we deep-dive into its reliability, accuracy, and more.

Best budget AR-9
549
at Palmetto State Armory

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

8. Aero Precision EPC

Aero’s EPC (Enhanced Pistol Caliber) is definitely enhanced!

Aero Precision EPC Shooting
Aero Precision EPC Shooting

There’s some small quality of life improvements to the AR-9 system that sets it apart from the PSA.

  • last round bolt hold open (yay)
  • threaded bolt catch paddle so you don’t mar the finish if you choose to build the lower yourself
  • flared magazine well for easier mag changes
  • hardened fire control group to keep up with PCC recoil

All these things make it our current best bang-for-the-buck AR-9 on the market.

Aero Precision EPC Featured Image
Aero Precision EPC at Night

We had a lot of fun running it in the day (and night) out in the desert and it ate up all the rounds we could throw at it.

Plus since it’s an AR platform we really dug its upgrade potential.

See the full review and list of upgrades in our Aero Precision EPC Review.

Want to grab one? Aero is marketing it more as a build-your-own type…but you can snag completed uppers and lowers below.

314
at Aero Precision

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

Video time!

If you’re looking for more AR-9s…check out our standalone Best Pistol Caliber AR-15s (AR-9) article.

Conclusion

Here are some of the advantages the pistol-caliber carbine:

  • They’re lighter and more mobile than rifles.
  • They fire at a higher velocity than their handgun counterparts.
  • They’re not as loud as most rifles and handguns.
  • Lower recoil than most rifles with the exception of .22 caliber rifles.
  • Virtually all of the same accessories that you can add to your rifles like optics, flashlights, and vertical foregrips can be mounted on your carbine.
Aero Precision EPC Front End
Aero Precision EPC Front End

The caliber you choose depends widely on your personal preference, especially when you have to choose between a .45 ACP and a 9mm. Or even 10mm!

9mm vs .45 ACP
9mm vs .45 ACP

If money is a factor, remember that the 9mm ammo is significantly cheaper than all the other calibers.

Regardless of the caliber you go with, you’ll get much more stability and accuracy with your carbine than with a handgun.

What’s your take on PCCs…what did end up going with? Looking for the Best AR-9…we’ve got an article for that. As well as Best 9mm Ammo and Best 9mm/.45 ACP Suppressors to fully kit out your gun.

Best 9mm and Multi-Caliber Pistol Suppressors
Best 9mm and Multi-Caliber Pistol Suppressors

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  • Commenter Avatar
    Shad

    Brah, how you not even going to have the Ruger PC on this list? Suspicious.

    October 7, 2021 2:45 pm
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    Todd

    I love my PC9

    September 26, 2021 6:56 pm
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    Jason

    Nice article Eric.
    I think the Extar EP9 should be included. Great gun for the price!

    September 23, 2021 7:16 pm
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    ZPO

    I have a mostly spikes tactical build (cmmg trigger)Great gun 8.5 inch barrel ,last round lock back, spikes barking spider muzzle device. This is a quality no issues pcc. Surprised o one has mentioned it.

    September 22, 2021 5:11 pm
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    Sylvain Corbaz

    Hi there,
    I am usually a big fan of the PPT articles, but this one really disappointed me. 7 (or 8) "best" PCC ??? No H&K MP5, no B&T APC (9, 10 or 45) and no Ruger PC9, but on the other hand 2 AK based and 3 AR-9 based, you can't be serious here... I am no hater, but this is really crap (no offense Eric).

    September 20, 2021 11:59 pm
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    John S

    If you are going to title the article as “carbines” then make sure all listed are at least carbine length barrels……not pistol length barrels.

    September 20, 2021 10:08 am
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    H D Allick

    Review: Best rifle caliber pistols?

    September 20, 2021 7:55 am
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    David

    "Pistol Caliber Carbine" is the lead in to the article.... and yet the top listed is a Pistol Caliber Pistol... barrel less than 16". There are several of those in the mix. Why is that?

    September 20, 2021 7:54 am
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    Kona Golden

    I quit buying from PSA. The horrendous Customer Service isn't worth the slightly lower prices. Unless you love writing multiple letters, e-mails, and waiting on hold for an hour. Otherwise, good article.

    September 20, 2021 6:44 am
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    Bruce Webb

    Enjoyed & Learned as usual, Thank You & keep up the good work! B Webb Atlanta

    September 20, 2021 12:14 am
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    Dave Modisette

    Have you tried the JP GMR 9mm carbine? I think the majority of 3-gun competitors use this because of its accuracy and reliability. It’s really cool looking too, and has great features.

    September 19, 2021 8:54 pm
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    Meeester Paul

    Foxtrot Mike is missing

    September 19, 2021 8:48 pm
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    Steven White

    I "had" a new generation Kel-Tec Sub 2000 ( Glock magazine ), I liked how it folded to make a compact weapon for storage, however the trigger was sub par and the sights were very hard to line up ( the rear sight was 1/4 inch to low to allow a comfortable cheek weld) the front sight was hight adjustable though. a good design that needed some improvements to make it user friendly.

    September 19, 2021 8:12 pm
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    Kurtis Hughes

    I am VERY Disappointed that you didn't put a "American Resistance" 9mm Carbine in the mix. Trust me when I say, that AR makes a FINEA$$ weapon that runs and runs.
    AND you can stuff it in your smallest backpack if you choose the "Takedown" model. Just saying guys.......

    September 19, 2021 7:10 pm
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    John K

    CMMG 16inch 9mm. Did not feed well. My gunsmith said no throat, rifled to the case mouth. Now throated, it runs. Less recoil than plain blowback.

    September 19, 2021 6:18 pm
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    Claudio

    Why did you left Foxtrot Mike out
    It one of the best

    September 19, 2021 6:12 pm
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    Rob

    So, pistol accuracy suffers after 15 yards or so. Let me see, that is around forty-five feet. How big is you house? The longest sight picture in my house is less than twenty feet. At that distance, with my Glock 30 (.46 ACP), I shoot fist sized groups all say long using my sights. When I shoot point and shoot style it opens up about a half an inch (Just a little bit bigger fist size). I just don't see the need for a carbine SD weapon. The article is great though.

    September 19, 2021 4:28 pm
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    fred

    Sad to see so many people talking about the "need" of buying a new gun, when they could buy a pistol brace, or CAA MCK conversion, instead, to fill the same sort of role. It would have been a good point to add to the original article as another option, but not a criticism, too many options are available as it is.

    Yes, you can keep your current handgun investment, and still have a better "medium range" firearm, if that's what you want to do, without buying a new "carbine", if your goal is versatility. The downside is, you need a compatible handgun that will fit these braces or "conversion kits", of course.

    September 19, 2021 4:14 pm
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      Silky Johnson

      There’s nothing “sad” about the need of buying a new gun. Sure, there are kits to convert handguns to be braced but why bother when there is so many dedicated PCCs that shoot better.

      September 20, 2021 1:09 pm
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    Bob

    I agree about the Ruger Charger 9mm.
    It's an inexpensive option that shoots very well.

    September 19, 2021 3:49 pm
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    C. F.

    I didn't expect them to be mentioned, but I have more fun shooting my lowly HiPoints, 9,10,45 than my several ARs. All three cost less than most listed. Not better, but for inside home defense, just as effective and just as fun. My budget Turkish ANG10 12ga also nice insider.

    September 19, 2021 3:45 pm
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      Bill G

      To each their own. Most would not be caught dead with a Hi Point, which is how you will be caught when your life depends on one!

      September 19, 2021 5:29 pm
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        Dennis Nielsen

        You have no idea how good the Hi Point is,you don't have one

        September 19, 2021 6:05 pm
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    Don

    Odd that the Ruger PCC isn't among the guns. I have one, it is the same length as my Colt M4 SBR. It shoots very good, has been reliable, even though I haven't shot a lot due to the ammo shortage. It also isn't a pistol with a brace. Those are going to be illegal within days thanks to the ATF.

    September 19, 2021 3:43 pm
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      Not ATF

      Hello, fellow gun owner! Thank you for the information.

      September 21, 2021 6:42 am
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    Rex Grigg

    How about the Ruger PC Charger???


    BTW, I don't think he understands bore either. The 45 ACP is a bigger bore than the 10mm.

    September 19, 2021 3:28 pm
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    BobF

    I don't see Ruger's PC Charger on the list...

    September 19, 2021 3:25 pm
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    Didier

    How about the Armalite AR-19?

    September 19, 2021 2:30 pm
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    sound awake

    "the 7 best pistol caliber carbines" is a lot like
    "the 7 best kale salads"
    or "the 7 best tuna casseroles"
    yes...some are better than others
    but why eat any of them when theres pizza bratwurst and cheeseburgers on the menu

    September 17, 2021 10:45 pm
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    Bill

    First, the Sig Sauer MPX-K in #1 is spot on! It is so far ahead the next pistol should be in 5th place ;) Why not include B&T APC9 or APC9K Pro or the Falkor Defense FG-9? With 3 PSAs on the list both would be top 5 contenders.

    September 17, 2021 9:46 pm
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    Melvin

    Hi Eric;
    What about the Ruger PC9?

    September 16, 2021 10:08 pm
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      Icecolb

      Better trigger, less recoil, and cheaper than a scorpion. Takes glock mags. When he realizes he missed it, he'll slap his head and make an edit to the post.

      September 18, 2021 8:21 pm
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      Will E.

      I concur. Why wasn't listed. Fun! Inexpensive! Highly-Accurate! Take-down!

      September 20, 2021 10:30 am
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    Daniel Garcia

    I have 3 PCC'S
    CZ Scorpian EVO3 S1
    KELTEC SUB2K GEN II
    BRIGADE MFG BM9

    I LOVE all 3 of them.
    Next on on my list is the Sig Sauer M400 9mm Tread.

    June 22, 2021 4:49 pm
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    Patrick w myers

    What is the gun in the last picture with the caption. How can you ignore something that looks s cool

    June 14, 2021 11:40 pm
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    Jim

    Why isn’t the KUSA’s KP9 on the list? It’s an incredible pcc, especially one that Russian police use.

    May 28, 2021 9:10 pm
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    JK

    cmmg 9mm carbine, not reliable. No throat, rifling back to case mouth. Throated and now runs. Less jumpy than straight blow back.

    May 26, 2021 11:16 am
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      JORGE PIZARRO

      Why is it not reliable? Was thinking on getting one... cmmg banshee

      August 3, 2021 8:47 am
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    DW

    Has anyone experienced the Glock fed Foxtrot Mike FM9? I’ve added a longer rail to the 5.5” barrel to cover a blast suppressor and a tail hook brace with the sylvan arms folder. Reflex with 45 degree irons and a small light. Perfect for home defense (and fits in a backpack if that’s your thing).

    May 17, 2021 12:12 am
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    Meyersgold

    They are all butt ugly compared to the Marlin Camp 9 and 45 carbines. Beautiful wood and steel.

    April 20, 2021 11:23 pm
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    Jimmy D.

    Blasphemy!!! How did you include the high point and not the ruger pc 9mm . It's my favorite to shoot out of all my guns.. I'm very disappointed the ruger wasn't included!

    April 19, 2021 10:01 am
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      Jim

      Me too! I hope you have seen the PCSH41 build of it. Absolutely amazing.

      May 28, 2021 9:11 pm
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    Brian K. Jones

    That last Pic, the one you said is "So freeking Cool",.... IT IS!!! I Want it! Which one is this???

    March 28, 2021 7:06 pm
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    John

    You mentioned a .357 pcc in your article but didn't list one. I am very interested to know who makes one. Also, I have owned an earlier sub2k and regret selling it. .40cal. accurate light and fun

    March 24, 2021 12:06 pm
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      David, PPT Editor

      That's an error on our end, sorry. That should have read "357 SIG" not magnum. We'll fix that! Also, here is one of the 357 SIG guns!

      March 24, 2021 12:09 pm
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    Claude Ulrich

    I read about the Olympic k10 in 10mm. Been trying to find more info on the firearm and company. Are they still in business?

    March 16, 2021 5:54 am
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    Reptile850

    The Hi-Point 995 TS is arguably the best overall budget PCC. It commonly outperforms the Beretta CX4 Storm, Keltec Sub 2000, and the Ruger PC9.

    February 9, 2021 7:54 pm
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    Percy Blakeney

    My favorite is my Ruger PC Carbine. It takes Ruger American, Glock or Ruger SR-9 magazines, the latter which comes with the Carbine.

    I own a Ruger American, so can use the same magazines in both my pistol or rifle.

    The SR-9 magazine will not fit in the American pistol,.

    I bought a couple extra Ruger American, 9mm magazines, then modified the latch hole in one, to see if it would work in the Carbine. It did, so I modified the rest so they could be used in either the 9mm American pistol or the Carbine, and the SR-9 magazine could still be used in the Carbine, all without changing the magazine well, which would have allowed me to use the American mags, but not the SR-9.

    Then there is the fun fact that the Carbine takes about ten seconds or so to break down so it's about half it's operating length. Like the break down version of the 10-22.

    When you pick the Carbine up, you know it's built. Throw a red dot on it, it plunks cans all day long.

    December 15, 2020 5:40 pm
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      Will E.

      100% Agree

      September 20, 2021 10:32 am
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    BJG

    Where does Foxtrot Mike fall on the list.

    December 6, 2020 4:26 pm
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      Chase Nichole

      Woohoo, just bought one of these and am excited to see it mentioned in comment #2!

      January 27, 2021 4:54 pm
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    RT

    Extar Ep9 should have been in the top 3.

    November 29, 2020 4:44 pm
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      Les

      Definitely. I’ve owned both the Sub2000 and a PSA 9mm carbine. My EXTAR9 is my favorite current firearm. Great ergos , Glock mags, eats the crappiest ammo and the best ammo without a hiccup. Out of the box slapped a Vortex Strikefire on it and a sling and literally love it. Zero recoil. Had it recently at Buds in Tn indoor range. 2 guys had rented Skorpion 9mm and they saw me shooting the EX9 they shot it and when they found out the price both swore it would be their next purchase

      September 21, 2021 2:11 pm
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    Jordan

    What about the Extar EP9?

    November 8, 2020 4:16 pm
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    bw

    Just some FYI - As far as the very first pic at the top of the article goes, I did a "right click save as" on it - it has "wilson-combat-pistol-caliber-carbine" in the title.

    But as far as the last pic goes of that really nice lookin one, I did the same but it does not have any telling info in it's title....hopefully Pew-Pew chimes in here....kind of bizarre they don't put a label below all their pics, I mean the whole idea is information and advertising right?

    October 16, 2020 11:53 am
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      David, PPT Editor

      That last picture happens to be a SUPER early one for us before we got so awesome at making sure everything was named right. Sorry :(

      October 16, 2020 12:23 pm
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        bw

        10-4, in hindsite, wish I didn't get quite so critical in that last sentence there but "too late now". Anyway, I apologize for that - thanks for the reply and thanks for a great website, appreciate all the info on here.

        October 19, 2020 10:32 am
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        BenC

        Your apology is great but the question still remains in my mind. What brand and model in the last “cool” pic?

        November 9, 2020 1:58 am
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          David, PPT Editor

          We don't remember :(

          November 9, 2020 8:25 am
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    GAT

    This is an outdated article. Things are changing fast in the PCC arena!

    October 6, 2020 5:03 pm
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    cheryl a salvati

    I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE VERY LAST GUN-NOT DISCUSSED IS. THE ONE YOU WROTE-How can you ignore something that looks so freaking cool?

    September 24, 2020 7:59 pm
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      Sir Eutychus

      Agreed. I came here to ask that as well.

      November 8, 2020 6:26 am
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    Mark Wynn

    First picture shows the excellent, reliable, inexpensive, developed for law enforcement, Ruger PC Carbine. Yet it apparently wasn't exotic enough to make the cut. I like mine. Fun to shoot. Accurate. I installed a red-dot. Take down/set up in a twinkle.

    September 24, 2020 7:14 pm
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      Percy Blakeney

      Dead on. I modified my American mags (very simple) so they work in the SR-9 well and I can use all the SR-9 mag in either my Ruger American pistol or the PC Carbine.

      December 15, 2020 5:43 pm
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    James Gause

    This is the gun I want, what is the brand, name and caliber?

    https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ar-9-pistol-caliber-carbine-1024x576.jpg

    September 23, 2020 11:13 pm
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      cli

      Any response yet? Just like you .. this is the best looking of the bunch IMHO.

      September 25, 2020 8:11 am
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    Zachary

    Do u have to take the cover off the berol that the lights and stuff connect too to clean the berol

    September 14, 2020 11:00 am
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    Lite

    Why don't firearms manufacturers make this style in .44 Magnum? Seems like the perfect platform for that round.

    August 19, 2020 4:37 pm
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    Jacob

    You forgot the PC Carbine

    August 18, 2020 9:06 am
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    Josey

    Decibel Level can vary significantly between the loads. If you can go subsonic borderline at 1,100 FPS or lower with a 200 grain 40 caliber or a 45 caliber with 230 grains you’ll have knockdown power with less blast - less wear on your ears indoors.

    August 3, 2020 6:05 pm
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    Hjh

    Hmm

    July 16, 2020 11:34 am
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    Brandon Cox

    sdf can't see the comment section

    July 8, 2020 2:01 am
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    Eric

    I love my hi point 995st. Always work s

    June 27, 2020 2:14 am
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    Alicia Proctor

    I think the Ruger PCC9 belongs on this list! It's a joy to shoot, even for a 100 pound girl, and has several really cool features, like its ability to be quickly separated into 2 pieces and carried in a larger purse! It's great!

    June 12, 2020 6:47 pm
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      Will E.

      Loving mine too. Inexpensive, fun, accurate, discrete

      September 20, 2021 10:33 am
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    Robert Lajoie

    Please check out Extar EP9. Real fun American made 9mm PCC. Thx

    May 14, 2020 3:58 pm
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    Wild Pierre

    I recently purchased the Hi-point 4595 TS carbine straight out of the box 75 yards 8” steel swinging g targets 7 hits ten shots ! Next up 20 round mag . My 11 year old son emptied the mag and LOVED it Very low recoil . Just added compensator and fore grip . Looking forward to next range trip with him .

    May 8, 2020 6:11 pm
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    Jerry

    Ruger pcc 9 or 40.

    April 28, 2020 7:38 pm
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    Dan B.

    I have two Hi-Point 4595TS carbines and I have to say they in no way deserve the hate. Neither of them have ever had a single FTF, FTE, stovepipe or jam in any way, even when feeding them cheap soviet block steel cased ammo. They eat anything you feed them, and I can’t even come close to saying that about my Sub 2K. Plus, I did a trigger kit, stainless recoil rod, and upgraded recoil spring on both of them for about $30.00 apiece. Tough to beat that. It’s like buying a Honda instead of a Mercedes, but sometimes inexpensive doesn’t mean cheap. And seriously, they’re not THAT ugly...

    April 16, 2020 10:30 am
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      Reptile850

      HI-POINTS CARBINES ARE EXCELLENT.

      February 9, 2021 8:22 pm
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    stan

    I just bought a SKO SHORTY 12ga semi shotgun , I have only fired it 10 times . so far no misfires or problems . it came with a 5 round mag , and I bought two 10 rounders . it is easy to fire but you must keep a tight grip to make the action work well . It is a very short pistol grip gun easy to move in tight space . I added a very bright streamlite where the front handle was .

    March 26, 2020 4:10 pm
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    ZPO

    Just finished an ar9 build. Mostly Spikes Tactical parts. 8.7 inch barrel, barking spider, glock mags. Great quality.

    March 23, 2020 9:43 am
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    Christopher Waters

    I Love My hi point carbines!! Have the 9 10 and 45. Quite accurate and fun to shoot. I know a master gunsmith that owns several hi point pistols and wouldn't get rid of them for anything. Inexpensive gun not a cheap gun.

    March 11, 2020 3:11 pm
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    Clay Bacon

    Why ignore Mech-Tech? I have one for my 1911 and it is wonderful. Plus, it keep that proper trigger, which can't be beat by any competitor. Ever! Mech-Tech also makes Carbine Conversion Units for pistols other than 1911, but if you don't have a 1911, you have an inferior trigger.

    March 10, 2020 11:29 am
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    Jacob Hawkins

    Ruger PC Carbine. Takes Glock and Ruger American Pistol Mags with the switch of a part. Free float handguard option available. Never shot one, but Ruger is known for not being a slouch. Might be worth a review!

    March 4, 2020 10:20 am
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      Fast Eddie

      My son bought one and like every other Ruger I've put my hands on it is right as rain. Accurate. Fun. Ruff and ready as a Ruger should be.

      March 29, 2020 11:35 pm
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    James in Montana

    One other thing. I've owned several of the Hi-Point Carbines and can attest to the fact that they are every bit as accurate and reliable as their more expensive counterparts. The only detrimental part is their limited round magazines. However, that is due to the political climate in several of the states where these carbines are sold and not to Hi-Points not wanting to make their carbines able to take larger capacity magazines. If all you can afford is a Hi-Point carbine, you are well protected by it if you practice with it diligently and get some extra mags.

    January 31, 2020 9:54 am
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    James in Montana

    One of the funnest PCCs that I know of is the Chiappa M1-9mm carbine. Patterned on the M1 Carbine, it is a direct blow-back operated carbine that takes M9/Beretta 92 magazines. While the bolt area looks a lot different than the M1 Carbine, it is the same weight (5.4 lbs) and just as easy to handle as its namesake. Overall, a great PCC for those who prefer the wood and steel guns over the polymer and steel of "modern" guns.

    January 31, 2020 9:41 am
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    Martin

    I have several PCCs and have shot several others. The smoothest is a direct impingement AR in 45 ACP. Ron at rmwxtreme.com as far as I know pioneered the AR gas system for .45ACP and is a wizard. He worked with me to get exactly what I wanted. I've had 2 of his uppers and they are phenomenal. I used a Quarter Circle 10 receiver set (large Glock frame) and Yankee Hill handguard. Daniel Defense grip and stock, and a Geissele trigger, JP buffer spring system. It's like shooting a BB gun, especially when suppressed. :-D

    January 29, 2020 7:39 am
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    Adam

    What makes it a PCC? Is it the stock? Length? Or what? Is an AR9 with a brace or just buffer tube and a 4inch bbl still considered a PCC?

    January 28, 2020 11:20 pm
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      Fyrfytr998

      A barrel longer than 12 inches. Anything less makes it a pistol. Now for a non NFA carbine, you need a 16in. barrel and a stock. Less than 16 with a stock puts you in SBR territory.

      May 5, 2020 7:38 pm
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    Shannon Lane

    I own the SUB-2000, the Freedom Arms FX-9, and I've converted (of all things) a Rueger 10/22 to a carbine bullpup configuration based on the P90 chassis. Of all of them, the FX-9 and the Rueger conversion are the best shooters, while the SUB-2000 is an astoundingly portable, usable, and lighweight firearm.

    THe best part of the FX-9 and the SUB-2000? They share mags with my Glock 17 - which means I literally have complete portability between the three platforms. I can't stress enough how amazingly useful and significant that really is.

    I've never had a misfeed problem, accuracy issues, or any other true complaint with any of the rifles, and - as I'm not a hunter and have no real use for rifle-caliber firearms? I find them absolutely excellent for both fun and home defense.

    We shooters talk a lot (and winge) about ammunition caliber and effectiveness, but at the end of the day, the only really effective firearm is the one that you can afford to practice on, that's easy to set up and use, and that isn't a PITA to go to the range and shoot. These pistol carbines are all of these together, and I'd rather pick up one of these and go enjoy myself any day over any of the rifle-caliber firearms I own.

    Don't underestimate the power of keeping your personal firearms to a single (or only a few) caliber choices.

    As a side note? Most ranges have restrictions on range utilization based on caliber - rifle calibers aren't often allowed at pistol distances or indoors. These rifles can be used just about anywhere, and with less expense - meaning more opportunities to practice and a better shooter in the end.

    January 5, 2020 8:59 am
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    Frank Massey

    I own a 995TS, the .380TS and the .40Cal TS. Contrary to popular misconception, they are very well made and efficient firearms. Hi-Point warrants the weapon for the life of the weapon...no questions asked. Next, I've never had any of them jam or stovepipe as long as the ammo wasn't the crappy lacquered steel cases from Russia...that stuff will jam any rifle. Try one out sometime and see what they can do. And, yes, they are great home defense weapons.

    December 24, 2019 6:40 pm
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      Tom H.

      I agree! When doing firewood in the mountains, I like having a long gun with me. I found the 995TS makes a great woods gun due to it's short overall length, durability, and reliability. Plus, the no questions asked warranty! It's the only carbine I don't mind bouncing around on my atv's.

      December 26, 2019 3:19 am
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    Lincoln Davis

    You forgot the true classic...
    1866 WINCHESTER LEVER ACTION
    The only true pistol caliber carbine in my eyes.
    Also legal in California XD

    December 5, 2019 3:26 pm
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    Russell Flynn

    I'm surprised that the Freedom Ordnance FX9 isn't on this list.
    Available in 4", 8" and 16" barrels.
    Unlike most AR type carbines that are built to accommodate the 9mm round, the FX9 is built around the 9mm round. Because of this, the billet upper and lower is slightly smaller (and lighter).
    Everything else is mil spec, so you can customize the crap out of it.
    It takes Glocks mags (the Promag 50 round drums work well!) It also has a last round hold open.
    I absolutely love mine!
    MSRP is $799, but you can buy them at $600 if you look around.

    December 2, 2019 9:30 am
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    Erik Hansen

    The Extar EP9 is frequently overlooked as a PCC. Like other guns in your review, it is a pistol with a brace. I have only put about 2000 rounds though mine, but it runs like a champ with no malfunctions and is very accurate. The EP9 takes Glock magazines, AR triggers and has a full length accessory rail (I'm running a first generation ACOG on the rail and it does not interfere with the side charging handle).

    November 29, 2019 8:28 am
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      Russell Flynn

      Extar weapons look like great shooters at a budget price.
      I'll likely replace my Hi Point 4595TS with their EP45 at some point. I love my Hi Point .45 ACP, but the fact it doesn't take Glock mags makes it less than perfect. The takedown process is also difficult.
      As for weight, the Extar EP45 is only a couple pounds lighter than the 4595TS, but trading two pounds in weapon weight for two pounds of ammo seems smarter.

      December 2, 2019 9:41 am
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      Danny Poe

      I own the Extar EP9. I have to say with over 6000 rounds through it with not one problem, this is my personal favorite. I've shot many others and will admit many are nice but it comes at a price. Price was my primary concern when I purchased the Extar. However after the purchase several others in my department have purchased them as well. They are extremely reliable and very smooth to operate. Accuracy is extremely good. I will have to say I would personally rely on this weapon in a self protection situation. They take Glock mags and require very little maintenance, they weigh in at just over 4 pounds.
      This is my opinion, others may see them as substandard, but I'll wager they haven't taken one to the range. I added a set of Magpul sights and a Sightmark reflex , I'm hitting a 18 inch gong at 100 yards.

      January 29, 2020 2:52 pm
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    jeb

    This is like a who's who of PCCs... from 2010.

    November 27, 2019 7:08 pm
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    Brian Womack

    Stribog and PTR 9kt are some of the best on the market.

    November 23, 2019 6:39 am
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    JD Murphy

    Brandon - what brand/model is the unnamed PCC in the photo at the very end of your article??

    October 30, 2019 11:35 am
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      Fyrfytr998

      Technically speaking, that final weapon is an AR9 pistol and not a carbine. It has a barrel less than 16 inches and uses a pistol brace instead of a stock.

      May 5, 2020 7:42 pm
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    Matthew Bristol

    How do you like the Brigade bm-9 that is on the classic firearms website? I have not seen any reviews on it yet.

    October 28, 2019 2:31 am
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      David, PPT Editor

      We haven't tried it, sorry

      October 28, 2019 9:02 am
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    originaljpat

    No Ruger PC Carbine!

    October 19, 2019 6:17 pm
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    brandon arthur

    How about the Ruger PC 9 M-LOK? Its amazing

    October 7, 2019 10:28 am
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    Wayne

    Have to agree with a previous reviewer. If the list ever goes to 7, the Extar EP9 would look good at that spot. Have one and I love it - it's perfect in every way!

    August 17, 2019 9:58 am
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    Josh

    No mention of the MPX?

    August 5, 2019 8:19 am
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    Eddie

    The Hi-Point carbine may work for people but not for me. If I were compiling this list though, I'd have put a Ruger Carbine on it rather than the Hi-Point or even the HK... I'm sure the HK is worthy of a 'best of' list but the price on it would most likely put it out of reach for many shooters.

    July 17, 2019 2:37 pm
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      Richard Bouchard

      Snob!

      September 12, 2019 3:59 pm
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    Joshua W

    The Exrar EP9 looks to be a great firearm that is very reasonably priced. Check it out.

    June 25, 2019 4:20 pm
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      yo-momma

      It's a pistol and doesn't fit on a list of carbines...

      September 23, 2019 12:35 pm
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        Erik

        While technically true, the brace on the EP9 is easily shouldered and makes it run like a carbine...

        November 29, 2019 8:32 am
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    Perry

    357mag is hugely popular ever hear of marlin 1894 Winchester 92

    June 24, 2019 9:38 am
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      David, PPT Editor

      PCC is normally considered to be semi-auto and .357 mag in a semi-auto PCC is almost unheard of, but I would agree that the old lever actions were the OG PCCs! I reviewed a Cimarron 1873 in .357 mag and it has quickly become one of my favorite rifles to plink at the range with.

      June 25, 2019 4:08 pm
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      Eddie

      I'm not aware of any definition of a pistol caliber carbine necessarily being a semi-auto rifle only so I would say that pistol caliber lever action carbines fit also and are good choices for firearms as they've been around for about 150 years more or less and are very reliable.

      July 17, 2019 2:33 pm
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    alan healy

    i chose to build an ar-9 solely for the gas mileage that you can get from 9mm. in all aspects it is similar to my ar-15, but i can spend a fraction of the cost and have way more fun at the range when shooting 2-250 rounds. it's a great gun for my son to get comfortable with as well. it came in at around $800, but i'm sure you could do one for less if you wanted.

    June 22, 2019 5:09 am
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    David Schlegel

    The Ruger PCC is my favorite. Now they even have more models. Would love to get that sweet looking handrail on my PCC9!

    April 29, 2019 3:22 am
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    Michael T

    My vote is for the CZ Scorpion 9mm. It is fun to shoot and for me in my advanced age has improved my accuracy 1,000% over standard pistol. It has some bad features: cocking handle too small results in skinned fingers. Safeties are too small and dig into hands/ fingers while shooting. Trigger pull is far too heavy at 10.5 pounds. CZ surely knows about these bad features so why don’t they correct them at the time of manufacture and thus avoid the need to buy and install after market replacements. A good gun could be transformed into a great gun.

    April 28, 2019 5:02 am
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    Bill Rose

    No Ruger PC Carbine? Affordable, highly adaptable, GREAT shooter and takes both Ruger and Glock magazines plus you can customize to your heart's content. AND it breaks down. Perfect for home protection or as a bug out gun. The Hi-Point and Kel-Tec are great guns because they are very inexpensive but still reliable. I love the design of the Beretta CX4 Storm and IMHO the Rolls Royce of PCCs would be the CZ Scorpion but after much deliberation all these guns I mentioned I went with the Ruger and I am not disappointed!

    March 23, 2019 5:21 pm
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    Jay

    How does the Freedom Ordnance FX-9 stack up the the carbine in your list?

    February 28, 2019 9:20 am
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    Mark Wynn

    No mention of the Ruger 9mm semi-auto carbine .... high quality for a low price
    .... hmmm

    February 7, 2019 8:20 pm
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    Jerry

    Who is the maker of the AR pistol in the last photo with the coment" How can you ignore something that looks so freaking cool?"

    February 4, 2019 5:02 pm
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    Rusty in Bend OR

    In the sub-gun/PCC category, it's hard to imagine why the SIG MPX isn't near the top of the list ... unless "Cost" was a huge factor in list creation. And if you extend to all sub-guns irrespective of chambering, it's hard to ignore the SIG Rattler. Yes, I'm a "S(B)igot", but the truth is these are stunningly reliable premium sub-guns that over-qualify in both shootability and cool looks. (IMHO)

    January 1, 2019 7:16 am
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    Ransom Smith

    My Hi Point 4595TS is a pretty cool gun. Never had any problems with it, and eats whatever I feed it. The handguns may indeed deserve the criticism they usually get. But, like you stated in the article, for some reason Hi Point did well with the carbines...

    November 26, 2018 7:50 pm
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    Cody

    Check out the High Tower Armory MBS-95 Bullpup conversion for the High Point. It really makes a huge difference to an already stupidly reliable platform.
    Beyond that, I always chocked up high point as absolute crap... but this has been the most reliable gun i've ever owned. And in 9mm, its accuracy at 50-100 yards is really surprising.
    Like I think i'd actually trust my life to this...thing.

    November 14, 2018 7:10 am
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    Jason

    Why not a 5.56 bullpup instead?

    November 13, 2018 8:13 pm
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    full METAL

    Needs moar B&T !

    November 5, 2018 11:47 am
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    Bill

    How about an article on pistol caliber rifle ballistics. I have a 357 and 44 Henry but can not find anything on ballistics for them with 38s or 44 specials. I was thing about a PC carbine but could it take down a deer at 100 yards in a survival scenario.

    October 12, 2018 3:32 pm
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    mike

    You attach a photo of the Ruger Police carbine, but dont write anything about them?
    Ruger is making them again in a take down version. I own a Ruger PC4 (40 caliber) and a Marlin Camp 9 carbine which I consider 2 of the best., yet a plastic hi point $200 gun gets recommended?
    Please explain that?

    September 7, 2018 3:38 pm
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      John

      Thank you. I wouldn't use that High Point to start a fire with.

      September 29, 2018 1:37 pm
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        Erik H Hansen

        Have you shot a High Point 9mm carbine? Ugly - yes. Reliable - absolutely.

        November 29, 2019 8:38 am
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      LazrBeam

      Roger that on the Marlin Camp 9. And the Ruger .44 Mag carbine, even though it only held 4 rds, should have been an honorable mention. And, let’s don’t forget the M-1 carbine. It’s being newly manufactured to mil-specs.

      December 14, 2019 10:51 pm
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    David Barbee

    The Beretta CX4 Storm is easy to convert for left handed shooters.

    August 4, 2018 10:51 am
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    henry

    I know I'm old but ever heard of a M-1 carbine? Basically a hot 357 Mag.

    June 20, 2018 11:15 am
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      David

      M1-Carbine, with the right mags, is a great little gun! But .30 Carbine nor the M1-Carbine really fit into the "Pistol-caliber". .30 Carbine is technically a rifle cartridge and finding a pistol chambered in it is very hard to do. The only current production one I know of is the Ruger Blackhawk.

      Still, handy little rifle and nice cartridge that doesn't get much credit these days.

      June 20, 2018 3:32 pm
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    For Reals?

    I hate to keep being the buzzkill on this site, especially since everything here is well-written, well-researched, and really accessible to the casual shooter/observer, but if we shooters don’t nip these common misconceptions in the bud they’re just going to keep plaguing us and weighing down progress.

    1. A PCC legally has to be the same length as the shortest rifle (around 26 inches total length). Unless you shell out the $200 tax stamp for an SBR, your 16” AR will be as long as you PCC.

    2. In the majority of states, including Stand Your Ground (SYG) states, engaging any target at 25 yards is hard to prove as defensive, unless of course they are ACTIVELY shooting at you, and at that point a rifle maybe be a shade better for stoping the fight. You’ll see the phrase “a duty to retreat” more than “snipe that fool” in legal docs.

    3. No Auto Ordinance? For shame (shakin my head). I’m just playing but I have had the honor of firing a WWII era Thompson and it was butter-smooth.

    Other than that, great stuff PewPew. Again, your articles are fantastic. Keep’em coming!

    June 12, 2018 2:35 pm
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      David S

      You're wrong about the length requirement. If the gun started its life as a pistol and you don't put an actual stock on it, there is no length requirement. You can attach a pistol brace instead. Disclaimer, not a lawyer, but the common interpretation of the ATF's current position (October 2018) is that you can legally touch the pistol brace to your shoulder as if it were a stock, as long as your intent when you built or bought wasn't just to circumvent the SBR laws. If you get yourself a braced pistol and happen to touch that brace to your shoulder when your hear a bump in the night, I don't think you have to worry about being prosecuted over it.

      Also, the Thompson has fallen out of favor for good reason - it's a wildly outdated design. Most obviously, it's *HEAVY*, and it's expensive to make. In full-auto, it's fun but outclassed by modern submachine gun designs. In the semi-auto versions available to regular folks, it's wildly impractical, except for the "neat" factor. Don't buy a Thompson for home defense.

      October 18, 2018 3:57 pm
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    robin

    Thoughts on CMMG MkGs GUARD Glock fed magazines and uses Radial Delayed Blowback operating system?

    May 28, 2018 8:37 pm
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    Bob Anson

    Pallmetto Statt Armory 9mm

    April 8, 2018 2:35 pm
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    Mccrummen837

    Anyone know the name of the green rifle at the bottom?

    January 31, 2018 4:35 pm
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      Jon

      That's an AR-9 pistol dude.

      March 20, 2018 5:16 am
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    Tom Arnold

    what do you think of the new Ruger PCC?

    January 11, 2018 5:23 am
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      Eric Hung

      It looks awesome and I can't wait to try it out at SHOT show soon.

      January 12, 2018 5:23 pm
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        Thomas Arnold

        curious how it compares to the Scorpion and others reviewed here

        January 15, 2018 7:44 am
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    R. B. Avery

    Oh, I forgot about the Kriss Vector CRB? I am pointing you in the direction of review at least 15 to 25 different 9mm PCC manufacturers so that we have a more comprehensive list of what's out there from $300 to $2500.00

    December 11, 2017 1:56 pm
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    R. B. Avery

    Great article Brandon, I am impressed with your presentation and I like the position you have taken on 9mm PCC, however you have overlooked a large number of new and old 9mm PCC on the market that are all quality made carbines and higher priced carbines, start with Thureon Defense 9mm, ATI-Mil Tech Sport, Nordic Modular 9mm, Dark storm 9mm, Wilson Combat 9mm (which is overpriced) FX-9 PCC ($599) from Classicarms.com channel on U-Tube, Sig 9mm (how did you miss this one?) and finally the new comer the J-68/69 this is a Bullpup 9mm using Glock magazines you need to test and review this one! finally when you do your follow-up on 9mm PCC don't forget to review and recommend scopes and red DOTs everybody is leaving 9mm carbine people out on a limb when it comes to sights? Brandon start with Primary Arms 2.5X with the ACSS reticle, this scope is already calibrated for the 9mm 115 and 124 grain!

    December 11, 2017 1:47 pm
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    Scrum

    Great article Brandon! I own or have shot a few of these, or derivatives thereof. I'm most interested, however, in the last picture you have in the article, which is not one of the five firearms you summarized. It's the OD/FDE one with a SBM4 brace in your "Parting Words..." section. Any idea what AR-like, pistol carbine lower that is?

    December 8, 2017 8:27 am
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    Byron

    I love my Beretta CX4 Storm 9 mm. Accurate, dependable, light, powerful enough, and fun. I also consider my Marlin 1894c .357 mag a pistol caliber carbine.

    September 30, 2017 5:06 pm
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    Joel

    The thing people need to keep in mind is, sure you can buy sweet carbine for $1000-$2500, but if someone breaks into your house and you're in the right to shoot, your gun WILL be confiscated as evidence and there will be no guarantee that you will get it back in a timely fashion or get it back at all. So you might what to factor that into your decision in how much you want to shell out for a carbine.

    September 11, 2017 4:54 pm
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      Scrum

      Very true Joel. We likely won't get the firearm back, even if it is a good shoot. Of course, I'll be more focused on finding a great lawyer for the life altering criminal and/or civil litigation that's sure to ensue!

      That said, however, if I'm ever forced into that situation, I want in my hands the most reliable firearm I can purchase, AND with which I can afford to train regularly. We all have budgets, and it certainly doesn't take $1,000+ to procure a reliable firearm.

      For 99% of the population, myself included, I'd humbly suggest that any excess budget we get to enjoy is better spent training--on and off the range--for the event we hope we never have to experience, than spent on an overly pretty, galactically "tacticool", "mine was more expensive than yours" firearm with which we never train. If one can afford to train with both a tacticool and reliable home defense firearm...then all the better!

      December 8, 2017 8:51 am
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    Joseph Horta

    So is it considered an AR? Or is it strictly a pistol that lo0ks like an AR? I have totally ignored this product because I purchased my LWRC Di so this is me being lazy. I am from CA so it is most likely illegal here anyway,

    July 28, 2017 9:56 am
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      John

      Joseph- another CA owner here... I have a PCC here and it is, indeed, treated as an "assault weapon." Simply put, that means no pistol grip, flash hider, adjustable stock, or front grip. Since all of these have pistol grips you'll need a grip wrap to make it legal.

      I got mine from Solar Tactical and have no complaints.

      While having a PCC with a grip wrap isn't as cool as the above firearms, the setup still provides an awesomely fun firearm.

      November 30, 2017 4:28 pm
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    ralph

    I like that you included a picture of a Ruger PC9, but you did not identify it. It is a great match up with the Ruger P-series pistols. It is a great 9mm carbine. They don't make them anymore, but used PC9s can be found on gun auctions sites, just be prepared to pay $800+ to get one.

    July 20, 2017 3:26 am
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    TRUBRIT

    I think a 10mm carbine would be ideal. Flat shooting and packs a punch way more than any other caliber. More rounds than a .45 and slightly less than 9mm in mags. I believe H&K made sub guns in 10mm at one time. Cannot think of any reason why the 10mm would be a bad choice.

    June 11, 2017 4:33 am
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      Connor H

      Hi Point recently released a 10mm version of their carbine. Also, Mech-tech makes glock conversion "uppers" for the G20.

      April 22, 2018 9:17 am
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    Craig Fisher

    Just wanted to say I have a hi-point 40 cal. Carbine and a 9mm and 40mm hand gun love them all never had a problem with any of them being a former police officer I have shot many different types of firearms and I compare it as a cheaper version of a glock loved my glocks but also have been very impressed with hi-point.

    June 7, 2017 6:49 pm
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    Vapor

    Not sure why so little was said about the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 in relation to the other carbines listed. These things are very accurate, quality made, light and tough as nails. I love the HK too, but a ten round magazine seems a bit paltry in a home defense scenario. All things being equal, sometimes more = better.

    June 5, 2017 10:52 am
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    Tom

    What carbine is in the last photo?

    June 4, 2017 8:11 am
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    Dave

    I bought a Hi-Point 995 TS and it does perform. I've fired different types and different brands of ammo. No FTF or FTE. I've even mixed type and brand in the same magazine with no problems. Nice carbine. Hi-Point pistols...not so much. The only draw back is the 10rd magazine. A 20 rd mag is made, but it extends too far to be really practical.

    June 2, 2017 2:50 pm
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    RV1959

    What about Just Right Carbines? They're great guns build along the lines of an AR-15 platform so many of the AR components can be used in it.. There are a number of calibers available for it and you can get conversion kits to change calibers.

    June 2, 2017 6:29 am
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    BarEnosh

    I own both Keltec sub2K and CZ Scorpion. Installed lasers and red dots on both to cover medium and long range scenarios ... super hard to put down at range, too addictive ... and I agree with you that it's perhaps the best home defense tools (even better than tactical shotguns I have, thanks for the great review

    June 1, 2017 8:26 pm
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    Steve

    I own a Sig MPX, absolute dream to shoot, Folding SIG brace, 30 round, put a red dot on top and a green laser/light combo on under side.

    June 1, 2017 5:52 pm
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    Jason

    Where is the Kriss Vector CRB?

    June 1, 2017 5:19 pm
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    Stephen Brunner

    I have owned a 995 TS for several years and love it. It is fun and effective, particularly with a nice red dot on it.

    June 1, 2017 5:11 pm