9mm vs .45 ACP: Debate Settled

What is the BEST handgun round?!?

The debate over the 9mm and .45 ACP is one of the most heated conversations in the firearms community.  Enough to spawn sayings you’ll see all over forums (and t-shirts).

9mm Will Kill Your Body, .45 ACP Will Kill Your Soul

Both handguns have a huge following thanks to their popularity and success in the field.

But which one is better?

I’m sure this is going to spark plenty of debate, so please feel free to let me know how you feel in the comments.

Internet kid meme
Please be gentle in the comments.

Comparing 9mm vs .45 ACP

Let me start out by saying that the biggest mistake that most people make is taking a black-and-white stance on the .45 ACP and 9mm.

Handgun Caliber Smallest to Largest
Handgun Caliber Smallest to Largest

You’ll hear a lot of people say that the .45 is better because it shoots a bigger caliber bullet, or that the 9mm is better because of its capacity.  Click here if you want to learn about more handgun calibers.

Both are valid points and very understandable reasons to prefer one over the other.

Even if you think size > capacity or more bullets is better, you have to admit having bigger bullets and having more bullets on tap are both worthy considerations when choosing one gun over the other.

.45 ACP primer close up
Is bigger always better? Some shooters think so.

The truth is…neither gun has a total advantage over the other one, and your personal preferences will play a lot in determining which handgun is for you.

Let’s take a look at the selling points of each one to help you decide.

About the 9mm

Praised for being compact and easier to handle than its .45 ACP counterpart, the 9mm has become one of the most popular rounds in the world.

For more than 30 years, the Beretta M9 and M9A1 have been the standard sidearm of the US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps.

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Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

The Army is in the process of switching over to the SIG Sauer P320…but they’re still sticking to the 9mm caliber design.  

Even the FBI has phased out their .40 S&W sidearm in favor of the 9mm’s improved stopping power and penetration.

This begs the question: is bigger necessarily better?

Here are some of the advantages that the 9mm has over the .45 ACP:

  • It has a larger magazine capacity given a similarly sized firearm
  • Its compact nature makes it easier to carry, especially concealed carry
  • It has less recoil, making it an easier gun to handle – especially for beginners
  • The guns and ammo are significantly cheaper; sometimes as much as half the price
FBI Agents Target Shooting
FBI Agents getting some target practice in.

The 9mm also has a higher muzzle velocity than the .45 ACP because it uses lighter bullets.  This has caused a debate in the firearms community over what’s better, a fast and light cartridge or a heavy and slow one.

While the answer to this is up to debate, one thing is certain: higher muzzle velocity does equal slower bullet drop.

Something to remember when shopping around for a 9mm

One of the most attractive things about choosing a 9mm for home defense is having more rounds at your disposable.

Unfortunately, this benefit may be completely canceled out in some states due to magazine restrictions, so it’s a good idea to review any state and local laws before buying a 9mm if you’re set on having a 15+1 capacity gun.

Regarding the .45 ACP

From the days of the trusty Colt M1911 to modern .45 caliber handguns like the Glock G21 and the Sig Sauer P220, the .45 ACP has always been one of the most reliable calibers on the market.

Trio of 1911's
Trio of 1911’s

After all, it was the official sidearm of the United States Armed Forces during two World Wars and remained so up until the 1980s.

Battlefield 1 M1911
You may have noticed it in every first person shooter game ever.

If you like the idea of shooting a gun with a lot of stopping power…you’re not alone.

Many handgun enthusiasts believe that bigger is, in fact, better and love everything that the .45 ACP has to offer. Here are some of its best features:

  • Its stopping power makes it a great home defense gun
  • Over-penetration isn’t as much of a problem with this caliber (see: big, fat, slow bullets)
  • Over 100 years of testing and iteration have produced some very powerful .45 ACP bullets

While slightly impractical, the .45 ACP also has the coolness factor on its side.  It’s a battle-tested gun that’s played an important role in American history during the 20th century.

shotgun meme with american flag guy
You’re welcome Europe.

Measuring the Two

There’s no doubt that the .45 ACP is a classic handgun that’s not going anywhere in the foreseeable future, but it just doesn’t outperform the 9mm.

Oomph

45 ACP Is For Grownups

Advancements in modern defensive ammo technology have helped the 9mm improve by leaps and bounds over the past 30 years; it’s not the same underpowered round that the FBI abandoned in the early 1980s. 

With a good modern defensive ammo, the 9mm is just as powerful as any .45, just in different ways.

Springfield XDS .45 vs 9mm
XDS in .45 ACP and 9mm Guns.com

When comparing the two handguns, it’s important to note that the 9mm hasn’t become better than the .45 ACP…it just caught up to it.  

A picture is worth a 1000 words…new self-defense 9mm ammo opens up to create some nasty possible wound channels to stop attackers in their tracks.

147 Federal HST Expansion
147gr Federal HST Expansion

That is some nice expansion from the 9mm ammo, but let us not forget that the same developments in HP ammo that allowed 9mm to catch up to .45 ACP FMJ also allowed .45 ACP HP to become a real monster of a round.

Winchester 230 gr Ranger T 45 ACP Lucky Gunner Test
Winchester 230 gr Ranger T-Series 45 ACP Lucky Gunner Test

While the 147gr Federal HST expanded from 9mm (roughly .35cal) to on average 15mm or .61″, the .45 ACP expanded from (again, roughly) 11.5mm to 25mm (.45″ to 1″)

Both (roughly!) doubled in size…and since .45 ACP is bigger to start with, it became massive in the end.

Affordability

Furthermore, the 9mm is more practical for the average shooter looking to spend time on the range.

With boxes of 9mm Luger rounds being 30 to 40% cheaper than .45 ACP ammo, increased range time isn’t going to break your budget; and after all, spending more time on the range does make you a better marksman.  Here are more tips on how to shoot more accurately.

However, there is always something to be said for having really big bullets ready to deal with really big problems.

Velocity

Also, for you suppressor enthusiasts out there, the .45 ACP is an inherently subsonic bullet.  It fires slow and heavy bullets at a lower muzzle velocity than the 9mm and can be suppressed to near-whisper levels.

HK45 USP with mounted light
HK45 USP with mounted light

Using your handgun in tactical situations

One of the main reasons why military personnel and many LEOs made the switch to 9mm handguns was because of the deeper bullet penetration.

Unlike in a home defense situation, the ability to shoot through a wall, automobile, or various other objects in a combat scenario can be the difference between life and death.

US Navy marksmanship practice
US military marksmanship practice with the 9mm M9

The FBI agrees that the 9mm has lifesaving features.

According to a report released in 2014, the 9mm was preferred in the field because of the following:

  • LEOs have a 20 to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important.
  • 9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers.
  • FBI agents have been observed to shoot faster and more accurately with the 9mm.
  • The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same.
  • The 9mm’s lighter recoil makes it easier for follow-up shots.

Considering all of the advantages of the 9mm, why would anyone want to use the .45 ACP?

Well, when it comes to home defense, the .45 ACP does hold one distinct advantage over the 9mm: shallower penetration.

Don’t worry, that’s a good thing here.

As mentioned in the video, over-penetration isn’t as big if a problem with the .45 ACP because of its slower, bulky bullets.

This means you have less of a chance of hitting an innocent bystander through a wall in a self-defense scenario.     

Choosing the Best Caliber for You

You might be wondering which caliber is better for you…the 9mm or the .45 ACP.

Well, this might rock your world but I’d recommend getting one of each.

Assuming you have the money. 

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“More guns” is the solution to a great many problems.

Many shooters like to have the .45 ACP for home defense.  It’s the perfect grab-and-go handgun to fire in close quarters where recoil won’t pose such a problem.

Alternatively, the 9mm’s stopping power and smaller design makes it ideal for open and concealed carry.  

While there are a number of compact .45 ACP models on the market, as a general rule, you can expect the 9mm to be more comfortable to carry in a holster.

Also, in a self-defense situation outside of your home, there’s a higher likelihood that you won’t be firing your gun at close range like in a home-defense scenario.

 In this situation, you’ll be glad that you have the faster follow-up speed and a larger magazine capacity of the 9mm.

Settling 9mm vs.45 ACP

Ultimately, both guns are great weapons to have.  When choosing between the two, also consider which gun feels better in your hand.  

Some people prefer the heavier feel of a .45 ACP, while others find the light and slim nature of the 9mm to be more easy to use.

Lots of Holsters, Boondock Saints
Lots of Guns, Boondock Saints

Either way, the 9mm and the .45 ACP both pack a strong enough punch to neutralize any threat.

9mm and .45 ACP come in a huge range of flavors, some that are amazing for home defense or EDC and some that are best for punching holes in paper – no matter what caliber you pick, we got you covered in our Best 9mm Ammo and Best .45 ACP Ammo reviews.

Where do you stand on the 9mm vs .45ACP debate?  Did I leave something out?  Let me know in the comments below!

118 Leave a Reply

  • Paul

    I don’t understand why a situation in a street would be different than at home. There is a difference between an LEO and a civilian. As a civilian I shouldn’t find myself in a situation in the street to have to shoot into cars and where I live by code all exterior walls are concrete. I have played many scenarios in my head and I always conclude that the proximity of an assailant in the street would be greater than the proximity in a home. I can’t see the situation where I would have to return fire on someone standing 25 yards away and where I would initiate shooting against someone at that distance. LEOs have completely different considerations. I used to carry 9mm and I switched to an XDS 3.3 chambered in 45 ACP. With the 7 round magazine it fits in my jeans front pocket. At 3-8 yards distance, which is the most likely scenario I would find myself in need to draw, if God forbid the situation arises, aiming would be instinctive and firing would be done with one hand. At such a distance a 45 round would be a lot more effective than a 9. I had never thought about all this before the day that an Iraq veteran, who loves hunting, told me “use a BB gun to shoot rats in your backyard and carry a large magnum as a backup against a hog charging against you...”.

    1 second ago
  • Josh

    I carry and would defend my life with 9mm round. That being said, I would go to hell and back with my HK USP 45. It’s the gun I run classes with and is setup on my battle/SHTF rig.

    1 week ago
  • Stacy Leighton

    I would have to say that for me I am more accurate with a .45 acp then a 9mm but that may be because the 1911 is a better fit for me and feels better balanced then a polymer 9mm

    1 week ago
  • Vance David

    I will always favor 45 Acp over 9mm. This doesn't mean I don't own a 9mm. I also carry .357 Sig In the winter time for thicker clothing on my would be enemies. One thing I do like about 9mm ammo that wasn't mentioned is the weight especially in bulk. 45 bullets weigh a ton In a ammo can! One thing I like about the. 45 is that it's so much easier to see the holes on a B27 target at 25 yards than 9mm holes. When you said buy both at the end I was thinking .45 for carry and 9mm for backup.

    1 week ago
  • UNDY

    I am pretty much in agreement with the author, GET BOTH! ...and I have gotten both, plus the 40 Cal Big Brother 10mm. As if the 9mm is the only benefactor of "ammo advancement", well, I also have the awesome 460 Rowland which overlaps 44 Magnum power levels in a 13 round Glock 21 magazine. Plus they have extended mags of many sizes Or back the other way, you can run 9mm NATO, +P adn all of that song and dance. I believe you can make darn near any caliber and pistol you have just as flexible as the next caliber. I'd love to find a 10mm SubSonic round in the 250gr range, my son has a Kriss Vector with a SilencerCo can. Very accurate pistol setup

    3 weeks ago
  • S. Squirrel

    I split the difference, .357 Sig gives you the same number of rounds per mag as the .40 but with the ballistics of a .357 magnum. When I really want to do some damage my S&W Govt. chambered in .400 Corbon gives me the power of a 10mm in a 45 ACP case size. Another benefit is that both are bottleneck cartridges dramatically lowering the chance of a failure to feed malfunction, an issue with both the 9mm and .45.

    4 weeks ago
  • Chris

    I find it funny that people pretend that modern ammo has only improved the 9mm. It’s such a pathetic argument. The same gap between the 9mm vs 45 still exists. While modern ammo allows a 9mm to reliable penetrate sufficiently and expand to over .6”, the 45 can now reliably penetrate sufficiently and expand to over 3/4” of an inch. It’s still creating a bigger wound and crushing more tissue. The 9mm on a per round damage basis is NOT as effective as a 45. That is simply bologne. Now when you factor in shootability, cost, and capacity you can make an argument that the 9mm is the better round but it is NOT as effective as a 45 when it comes to terminal ballistics. That is just simply a foolish claim to make. Some modern 45 jhp loads are creating wound channels on par with 12 ga foster slugs. Modern ammo has not only benefited the 9mm

    1 month ago
  • AMERICAN PATRIOT

    I don't think a ATTACKER/HOME INVADER will know the difference between a 9mm or a 45cal to the HEAD, NECK or a double tap in the CHEST!! One of the GREAT things about FIREARMS in AMERICA is VARIETY!! One of the BAD things about FIREARMS in AMERICA is the DEMOCRATIC LIBERALS!! Either one will do the Trick unless it happens to be a VERY RARE ATTACKER who has a super tolerance for pain & Blood loss or is on some kind of super man DRUG!!

    1 month ago
    • Haluziak

      Till yesterday I carried .22LR. You ask why? Well it will make holes in bad guy/rabbid dog … I am confident that I can stop attack with .22LR cause I can shoot 8 rounds in about 3 secconds center body mass, palm size group. But as I wrote before, I will be sent to jali for that and I dont like small places :D So I purchased big bore gun :D and hope for rapid blood pressure drop which will cause unconsciousness, or that this bullet will go trought and break spine.

      1 month ago
  • Haluziak

    Somethig to the discuters, even for an author. I live in less free country, I still can carry my pistol, but EU wants to limit my magazines (blah blah blah). But the greater concern is, that Judges in my country do not like defensive shooting. First to mention, we are limited to FMJ rounds, no HP no JHP, just plain FMJ. Second, our judges demand, that each shot has to be beforethought = you can shoot perp once and then you have to evaluate, if he stoped his attack. If not, you may shot again but not before. So if you double tap someone or use Mozambique you are in lots of troubles and you are looking for serious jali time for murder. The above writing concludes that my next pistol is .45ACP (already ordered Glock 41 MOS) and if I have to ever use it (and I hope not) - it will be one shot center body mass and wait if bad guy want to do something else. If so, another one which should lead to enough blood pressure drop to lose consciousness.

    2 months ago
  • john schroeck

    I agree with you completely,I like and have both -a DW Guardian in .45 and a sig p365 9mm for carry.The choice on which to carry depends upon where I am carrying and why for that day.I believe the ability to have both options covers more scenarios.Great info BTW.

    3 months ago
    • AMERICAN PATRIOT

      One of the great things about FIREARMS in AMERICA is VARIETY! A ATTACKER/HOME INVADER will not know the difference between a 9mm & a 45cal to the HEAD, NECK or a DOUBLE TAP to the CHEST!! They will both have the same result!

      1 month ago
  • Vicente Taboada

    45 acp, with a father like the one we had, And the proof he show. My dear friend, is nothing ups there tha can be compare to the amazing 45 acp. For self defense close or far away. We can hit a moving target at 75 yards away. Need more.?

    4 months ago
    • AMERICAN PATRIOT

      45cals are GREAT and so are 9mm, but If you Hit a ATTACKER IN the NECK or CHEST with a 9mm he is not going to say, "It's only a 9mm let me finish attacking this person"

      1 month ago
  • BBeau

    This is a great article period.! I would like to add that the FBI test comparisons that are referred to are only half the test. The true stopping power goes to the 45 acp (I.e. death) 92+%, 9mm is just over 50%. Center mass Shot placement. Which is why spec ops and the FBI still have 45 acp in their arsenals. Operational goals dictate which weapon to carry. The FBI and the army’s surgeon General have done extensive data gathering. It’s good advice and have fun digging. some info is well hidden for obvious reasons.

    4 months ago
    • AMERICAN PATRIOT

      But barrier's and body armor slows 45's down to BB gun effectiveness! I was watching COPS and some ACCIDENTALLY shot a 45 at a motel, it went across a 100 foot (or so) Court yard through the Flimsy motel doors Hit a man standing up and the bullet fell into the man's POCKET!! He didn't even have a BRUISE where the 45cal bullet hit him!!

      1 month ago
  • Joe Miller

    The U.S. Navy was the last branch of service to go to the 9mm. When I was in we still carried the Colt 1911 .45. Great weapon! My instructors told me that the main r reason the Navy didn't want to switch to a 9mm was that you can hit a 300 pound man with a 9mm as he's running toward you. You can hit him multiple times and he can keep coming at you. With a .45 you can hit him anywhere, even in the arm or shoulder, and you're going to knock him down. Every time. In the real world a single hit with a .45 will stop him. An unmoving target is pretty easy to hit again if needed.

    4 months ago
    • AMERICAN PATRIOT

      That is the EXCEPTION!! Most ATTACKERS will not realize the difference of being Hit with either bullet!! Expecially a HEAD, NECK or double tap CHEST shot!! Most ATTACKERS even if not mortally wounded will address thier WOUND TRY to save THIER LIFE & not get SHOT Again!!

      1 month ago
    • Scott

      Saw a Gentleman post earlier that he’s proficient with a .45 at 75 yards. Outstanding. But that’s still a bit of a long shot for a sidearm in a firefight. That being said, every one raves about the FPS of the 9mm. So say it has a 500 FPS advantage. At 75 yards (225 ft) you talking about the round arriving a mere .5 seconds faster. I’m not aware of any Humans that can dodge a round in under 1/2 second. I’ll stick with my slower freight train that will knock a person flat down, even on a sloppy hit, lol.

      1 month ago
  • G20❤Da10

    I say buy the a 10mm... Higher muzzle velocity & muzzle energy than the 9mm & .45.... True 10mm auto ammo like the kind from Underwood is hotter than .357 mag & .41 mag... Almost reaching weak .44 mag specs... Take the 155gr XTP 10mm round from Underwood. Muzzle velocity 1500,,, muzzle energy 774... Hot stuff. Nuclear.... But if you just have to have a 9mm or .45... I would most def go with 9mm for carry... You never know how many attackers you will be dealing with & if they all have weapons themselves, the more ammo you can shoot the better... Plus if you scared of not a enough knock down power with the 9mm. You can always double or triple tap your attacker... Also use hollow points, I would go with Federal HST 124gr.... Plus with the 9mm your follow up shots will be on target better & your groups will be nice... If you looking for a slugger for something like car defense or home defense. You most definitely want to go with the .45... Use federal Hst 230gr... But the 10mm has the speed of the 9mm & is even faster & has the power of a .357 mag ---- .41 mag depending on the ammo you buy... Plus it holds 15+1.... You have the triple package. Speed, power & high capacity.... Hope I was some help....

    4 months ago
  • raptor jesus

    Not a lick of science in this article. Fortunately plenty exists. The penetration myth is a myth. Your 45 and your 9mm will both go clear through the walls in your house. As will pretty much anything under #4 buckshot. Regarding "damage" - both have about the same amount of energy, both leave indistinguishable wound tracks in pliable human tissue - we're not clay. The bigger bullets may make a temporary cavity but the permanent cavities are pretty much indistinguishable to coroners. Basically, all handguns are poking holes in squishy meat bags.

    5 months ago
  • Y.Gali

    To say that the 9mm is justbas oowerful than the .44, is totslly nonsense. As a Patrol Officer I have seen both in action in the real world, not the bull crap settings of a test range. No way in hell can the 9mm possibly ever match the .45, or even the .40 S&W, at stopping people. Some can say that you can carry more rounds ina 9mm than a .45. Not in California and some other states that stop you a 10 rounds mags. Many say that it is all about round placement, true, but I have seen .45 rounds place in none critical areas and still knock the person off theor feet. While the 9's, well, they kept on fighting on theor feet. Seriously, people think that the 9mm rounds are the only that made progress in development. Not true at all. This is the true reasons behind the FBI changing back to the 9mm. Lousy ass training and poor shooting skills of theor agents. Even the FBI report states that 9mm makes it easier for their agents to qualify. Only because many pokice depts as hiring more and more females. Switching to the 9mm makes them look less sexist. Here is what an okd timer officer wrote about the subject. He hits the nail perfectly on the head. He wrote: “The FBI and many police departments are going back to the 9mm for one reason and one reason only – it’s easier to qualify with a 9mm. Departments around the country, in their never ending effort to do more with less, don’t allow for practice hardly at all anymore. Thus, you have a yearly day qual and a yearly night/low light qual and that’s it. They want a 210 or better the 1st time through and then you get back to work. It’s truly sad that worthless police management who sit on their asses all day behind their desk in their A/C can implement near-sighted ideas like this, but it is what it is. I shoot 240 consistently with my 40 and would never carry a 9 unless I had to. It’s simple physics – what’s going to cause more damage…a Federal HST 147gr 9mm going 1000 fps or a Federal HST 180gr 40 going 1010 fps? These are the ammo that most departments use. Getting back to the point – the 9mm gives less recoil and many cops nowadays can’t shoot for shit. – 15 years ago, a 210 or 215 was something to be embarrassed about. Now – I see these new cops high fiving each other for passing. I think rather than going to the 9mm to mask the underlying problem, they should put $$$ into teaching cops how to shoot.”

    5 months ago
    • raptor jesus

      Do the math. Energy is a square of velocity. They're both about the same energy in most common defensive rounds between the two calibers. Until you're reaching velocities where hydrostatic shock becomes a thing (2,500+ fps) you're poking holes in flesh bags. Just ask the coroners - they can't tell the difference between someone shot by the two (they came definitely tell when a rifle is involved though).

      5 months ago
  • leon guinsad

    according to some of my police friends who's used a 9mm pistol to the bad guys, even they pump bullets the bad guy still able to run for safety, so they now replace their service firearm into M1911 cal.45.

    6 months ago
  • Burt

    You cant beat the trigger on a .45 1911. I have many .45s and 9mms. When I'm in the woods I use .45 cast. Going to the store I take my 9 with 124 gr hst. Only because it's easier to hide. I would take the 1911 but some folks freak when they open carry. Go out and shoot some pumpkins, you will see the massive difference between 45 and 9mm. .45 being a nuclear bomb!!!

    6 months ago
  • James

    Same old crap different day. The same tech that has caught the 9mm up to the 45 has made the 45 even more superior. If capacity isn't a factor 45 rules the roost. As a civilian I doubt the I will need an ammo dump under my gun to defend my life. If I did, I would either aviod the area or take a rifle. I own both 9 and 45 because I enjoy both and in a shtf both will be needed. But apples to apples the 45 will always be a superior round.

    6 months ago
    • nmflyer

      i agree and i hear that every day. "the 9mm has evolved to the current power of the 45 acp" as if there have been no developments in the 45 acp and the 45 acp has stood still. The 45 acp has further developed as has the 9mm still making it a far superior round.

      3 months ago
    • capacity man

      I love both rounds, but after seeing so many shootouts on liveleak, I have come to the conclusion that you are probably going to miss more than you think so have more rounds than you think you need.

      5 months ago
  • John Doe

    I love your Pro / Con's of each. I do exactly as you stated, we think alike. Only thing I would add is my home defense pistol fights me to my rifle...since pistol rounds are weak compared to a good old 5.56. Great article!!

    7 months ago
    • John Doe

      ps I have always thought, why do "they" argue the 9mm hollowpoints advanced and are the same performance as 45 now. I get that, but as you said, the same tech is applied to .45 and now the expanded .45 is much larger than the expanded 9mm...so 45 still beats 9 by a wide margin (size wise), if they both expand. Best argument I ever heard was, even if your hollowpoint fails to expand, a .45 will always punch a .45 hole. If a 9mm fails, it won't perform anywhere close to an unexpanded .45 and will punch a tony hole. So .45 is the guarantee to punch big holes, with 9 you have to have the right conditions. Then again, if penetration through a bedroom door, heavy jacket, glass, etc your .45 won't make it to the target, so much to think about! Maybe alternate .45 hollow point and hot buffalo bore or extreme penetrator (best of both worlds).

      7 months ago
      • Matt

        1. Any high penetration rounds for handguns beyond fmj are usually considered as "armor piercing" and therefore illegal in the us. 2. If you are using ap rounds in a home defense scenario and your shot goes through a wall and hits your neighbor, good luck justifying it in court. 3. Modern 9mm hollowpoints nearly always expand, especially if you're using +p rounds at close range it's pretty much guaranteed.

        2 months ago
  • rick

    jack says if you throw a rock to throw the biggest rock.

    7 months ago
    • John

      Like, Jack Bauer? Sparrow? Nicholson?

      7 months ago
  • ydnar0591

    Killing the BODY "in this world" is MORE than Sufficient. I don't believe that MEN can Kill the SOUL....It's GOD BREATHED Genesis 2:7.... and since the "SOUL" is "GOD-BREATHED", then The SOUL is "IMMORTAL".! That would explain why unbelieving (LOST) people in "HELL" "BURN, but NEVER BURN-UP"..!!!"???

    7 months ago
    • Burt

      It's just a saying, relax,

      6 months ago
    • Pastor Ken Rodway

      This really isn't the place for an in depth spiritual discussion, but your comment was interesting. You are right; the soul is eternal, and only God can condemn it to hell, and ultimately to "the Lake of Fire." Actually, we ALL have a soul, but only TRUE Christians (born again believers) have a spirit. Contrary to world-wide teaching, not one of us was born (or created) in the "image and likeness of God." In fact, since the world began, only 3 people have been:- Adam, Eve (before they sinned), and the Lord Jesus Christ (Who never sinned.) Adam and Eve passed on the nature of sin (spiritual death) to the whole human race (see Romans 5:12-21), which is why we MUST be "born again of the spirit in order to enter the Kingdom of God" (see John 3:3). In short, we ALL live for ever: the only question is WHERE? Spirit people go to Heaven... Soul people go to hell. Any one who reads this should know that vital truth! God bless.

      6 months ago
      • Burt

        Did you know Eve was not the first woman? Just saying, look it up.

        6 months ago
  • Bravo Tango

    If you are choosing the 9mm simply because of capacity, you might want to also consider the FN Herstal FNX-45. It has a capacity of 15+1 and it's a 45 ACP. Just saying.

    8 months ago
    • John Doe

      Yea! I literally just bought one of these. I do just like the author says. Glock 43 9mm is my every day carry, IWB. FNX 45 T is my bedstand gun with 15 +1, RMR and 1000 lumen Surefire. My plan is to magazine dump the pistol towards the threat, en route to my Colt M4, then lay down a wall of suppressive fire until the police respond to my alarm.

      7 months ago
      • Tracy Stover

        Good evening! I recently moved to my country property and am living alone. I've done some research on the differences regarding handguns, but now I'm getting a little confused. With having very minimal firearm experience, could you recommend a good choice? Thanks in advance, Tracy

        6 months ago
        • Burt

          Go to a range and rent some guns until you find one that you can shoot well. Then buy noise canceling ear muffs for about $20 because if you ever pop one off indoors it will hurt your ears. Also buy a super bright flash light it will help you see and blind the intruder. Practice practice and take a gun class to learn the law. Or you could end up in prison. Don't be scared but owning a gun is a responsibility.

          6 months ago
  • Rahul Ray

    I love 50 ae..

    8 months ago
    • Matt

      Try firing one off indoors in the dark with no ear protection. I guarantee it's not something you'll want to do again any time soon.

      2 months ago
  • Mars

    For the elderly, the recoil of the standard 1911 45 is lesser because of its weight. They are not an ideal  carry gun, howyever. The subcompact 9mm, is an ideal carry gun but it's lighter weight makes recoil control difficult. The upward recoil maybe lesser but 9mm has a twisting recoil motion. I had thousands .45 230 grains  hardball and some +Ps hallow points with my standard 1911 when I tested my friend's full size 9mm. I was surprised because the gun twisted in my palm about 1/2" or more to my left with a sharp pinging  sound that was not very comfortable to my ears.

    8 months ago
  • GeorgeCaldwell

    I don't think one is better than the other either. I agree with what the majority of old veterans say. All bullets kill. Use what you can use the best. I myself started out carrying a 22.lr handgun because it was what I shot since I was a kid. My grandfather gave it to me back in the early 1990s before he died. He had a friend that was teaching me to shoot at a campgrounds we used to visit each weekend. Anyway my grandfather died before his friend could teach me more. The campground lot got sold. And by that time I lost interest in learning more. Later on in life I started to practice shooting again and worked with many different calibers. I finally settled on the .380acp for awhile because the size of the handguns matched my older 22lr Handgun. Later when they started coming out with pocket 9mm handguns I started to practice with those. Now I carry a 3.2 inch barreled 9mm. I do like shooting the .45acp But a 1911 commander as much as I love it, is harder to fit in my pocket. However I don't really feel the average .45acp has that much more recoil "if any more" than a hot 9mm round.

    9 months ago
    • Matt

      All bullets kill... Eventually. If a guy rushes you with a knife and you shoot him with a few rounds of 22lr in the chest he'll probably die. Just not before he stabs you to death.

      2 months ago
  • Mr. WOLF

    The 45 acp has better stopping power. Thats a fact. Bigger holes are better ones. I have shot many things living and not w both calibers and i have to say that 45acp does noticeably more damage. This isnt a pride of ownership statement either. Currently i own no 45,s. My 2 primary guns are a Canik TP9SA 19 shot 9mm and a 7 shot Taurus TRACKER 357magnum. And honestly the 357magnum puts em both to shame. Bottom line though... all are great weapons. 9mm is a better beginners and plinkers gun and 45acp is more for someone experienced thats wants to lay the smack down.

    10 months ago
  • Terry

    Here we go agin, 9mm vrs 45, I started shooting at age 8 I am now 64, aferter seeing many debates on this topic, here is my own opinion the best pistol or rifle for self defense is the one that you can shoot the best. What ever cal. If you can hit with one and allways misswith the others , I think I would chose the one you can make the most hits with, just from my own exsperance , I had some mild steel targets out at my home we used to shoot at all day and almost every day with .38 spl, And 9 mm, then I bought a kimber1911 In .45 acp, with 230 grain target rounds we started shooting the same targets we shot with the 9mm and 38 spl, well guess what No more mild steel targets to shoot at, it completely deformed All the targets, conclusion is I guess if your shooting steel targets you better use ar500 steel if you don't want to destroy them with you .45, but for self defense Any cal will work depending on shot placement. Later Yonder TB

    10 months ago
  • Dustin Carter

    The one thing I never see mentioned about the .45 acp is that because it's a slower round and over penetration issues drop dramatically it, FMJ is still a very good SD/HD ammo. I have shot drywall and 2 inch plywood and have gotten little penetration from 5 yds with a Smith and Wesson 645. white box Winchester was the ammo..

    10 months ago
  • Jon

    Very informative article! I will always have a 1911, because it is my favorite gun to shoot. The best ergonomics, the feel of the recoil, and let's not forget about how gorgeous it is! However, I am getting an M&P9 2.0 for my daily carry. I've finally finished up college and paid off my loans, and I'm ready to get back to the range at least weekly to improve my accuracy now that my budget allows. .45 ACP does have more advantages than stated in this article, namely that the .45 will not get deflected by bones nearly as bad as the 9mm (for example, pro bowlers, as they age, would rather stick with a 16lb ball and have less speed than drop to a 15lb ball and keep their speed high - the difference between a 15lb ball and a 16lb ball going through the pins is astonishing). However, if trained professionals only have 20-30% accuracy, it's not unreasonable to think that many of us would only have 15-20% accuracy in a self defense scenario. That means 2-3 hits per mag in 9mm vs 1-2 hits in .45 ACP. And this is all before we even talk about the lack of concealability of .45 ACP double stack. Overall, I'll carry 9mm when outside my home, eventually acquire a double stack .45 ACP for home defense, and will shoot the 1911 for fun :)

    11 months ago
    • People make dumb comments

      He obviously said that the 9 will penetrate better then the .45 thats why the military adopted it and left the .45 in the past.

      9 months ago
      • stewart

        The 2 main reasons for the switch was 1. cost 2. ammunition since all our NATO allies use the 9.

        8 months ago
    • Red Crow

      Why not buy a double stack 1911, like my ParaOrdnance p14-45?

      10 months ago
  • Oldman62

    I have several 9 mm different brands but no cheap gun, Glocks, Smith & Wesson and CZs... I couldn’t get the thought out of my head my Colt I sold in the 90s so had to buy a SA 1911 loaded... great weapons all... just don’t worry about home defense... I keep my 870 close by for those rats that might want to drop by uninvited...

    11 months ago
  • J Stern

    Hello everyone, I can only say this: When your life - and the lives you protect - depend on 18 ready available bullets, you’re going to wish for more. And then some more. Engaging, defensive and cover fire; they all require lots of bullets. Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst case escenario. Your life depends on it. No looks or ballistics tests are going to help you there. Only your focused aiming and bullets. Lots of bullets.

    1 year ago
  • Iklwa

    This is a debate that will go on as long as there are those who don't want to accept the laws of physics. The US military adopted the 38 Long Colt in 1892 thinking service men could carry more ammo and the cost to manufacture and transport would be lower per round. Funny thing though, the administrators weren't the ones facing the enemy and while the 38LC was easy to shoot (basically a 9mm Luger ballistic wise), it did not stop determined attackers so the Army re-issued the 45 Long Colt. If you want to stop a varmint, use the largest projectile feasible. Varmint applies to large game too..

    1 year ago
  • Burton Craig

    Ha, Ha, Ha. you make me laugh. Bullet tech has come a long way for the .45 also.. ya ever seen the hole a .230 grain HST makes?..960 dia. 1 shot equals. 300 thousands of an inch diameter more than a 9mm HST.. my 1911 short trigger pull is fast. But then a .22 in the eye works to.

    1 year ago
  • Full Metal Sweater

    A lot of this pissing contest about pistol calibers is very egocentriccentric. The matter of fact is that the three most commonly carried/used semi automatic calibers (9mm, .40 s&w, .45 acp) are all equally quite weak compared to shotgun and rifle rounds. Any reference to "stopping power" in regards to the aforementioned rounds is laughable. The best advice when employing these rounds in a true self defense situation is a follows: "Apply judiciously and generously until the threat has stopped". The 9mm is no pea shooter and a.45 acp is not a one shot giant killer. Be situationally aware, proficent and accurate with your weapon and the rest will fall into place.

    1 year ago
    • Jon

      Stopping power is not the same as joules or ft/lbs. On these metrics, the rounds are generall equal. However, physics will not be denied, and .45 ACP, while slower, is heavier, and will therefore break bones that 9mm would otherwise deflect off of. Mass is an important factor! But, like you said, all of this arguing is moot if you cant hit your target!

      11 months ago
  • J Funk

    Fair & balanced article. I have many .45 and 9mm. My personal favorite without a doubt is the 1911 design, even though it's heavy, expensive to shoot, and has a limited magazine. It feels good in the hand, is built like a tank, and definitely a 'cool' looking piece. The main drawback is the 8 round magazine (WC). I can shoot my Sig 17-round magazine all day and not feel my wallet getting lighter by the minute. Still, if someone breaks in the house I keep a .45 S&W revolver next to the bed. Point and shoot, only need to hit my target once...then they're down. There is no perfect handgun, life always has compromises.

    1 year ago
  • NAC

    n 2014, the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) released a report detailing the potential combat effectiveness of the 9mm cartridge when compared to other calibers such as the .45 ACP and the .40 S&W cartridge that was specifically developed for use by the FBI. The report indicated that the new powders and more advanced bullet designs used in current 9mm defensive loads allowed for the caliber to deliver almost similar performance to other calibers, like the .45 ACP, and .40 S&W. In addition to this, the lower recoil, less wear, cheaper ammunition and higher capacity were all reasons that the report cited for the recent surge in orders of the ammunition from various police agencies. With a wider selection of officers being able to shoot handguns chambered in 9×19mm, many departments choose this caliber so they can standardize around a single firearm and loading, making logistics and supply easier. Due to all of these factors, law enforcement orders of 9mm ammo from all major ammunition manufacturers have spiked significantly. The FBI report made it clear that the more consistent accuracy of 9mm in the hands of their less experienced shooters was a factor in their returning to 9mm as their standard handgun caliber. It was also made clear that the almost same effectiveness of 9mm compared to .40 S&W and .45 ACP was due to the high quality of 9mm ammunition available. New powders and more advanced bullet designs used only work for the 9mm not 45 acp or 40 S&W? That is kind of odd to me!! Anyone else think the same thing?

    1 year ago
    • David

      The main argument is basically that once a threat a stopped, it can't really become more stopped. Yes, 45ACP with defensive loads and .40 S&W with defensive loads do more terminal damage than 9mm with defensive loads. However, that damage is effectively wasted since the cartridges were designed so that they worked as ball ammo. Increasing the lethality of them is moot since they were already the benchmark. Once it is dead, it cannot be deader. 9mm defensive brings it on par with 45acp and 40s&w ball - and that is what it needed to meet for it to outperform them since you also get the gains of capacity, less recoil, cheaper, and easier to train with. Also keep in mind that the study, and their recommendation, was based off of the assumption that they were going to be equipping thousands of people with the new weapons. They needed a standard that could be applied to everyone - not what was best per person. If you, as an individual, can put in the training required to fully leverage 40S&W or 45acp then it can be a great choice for personal defense. If not then 9mm is an amazing option now.

      1 year ago
  • Craven

    FWIW, I find the 45 recoil is "smoother", whereas 9 & 40 seem to be "sharper", making the muzzle flip harder to recover from. Plus, I think the just plain weight of the 45 carries more "oomph". Maoris beware.

    1 year ago
  • Frank

    yeah...you say the 9mm bullet has gotten better, but in reality both have gotten better. Thanks for the one sided argument.

    1 year ago
    • NAC

      I noticed that also that new powders and more advanced bullet designs seem to ONLY apply to the 9mm. Why is that? If new powders and more advanced bullet designs used helped make the 9mm better then would not the new powders and more advanced bullet designs also then put every other caliber a step up also?

      1 year ago
      • Matt

        They obviously apply to other calibers as well. The point is that 9mm is now sufficient to stop most attackers with 1 shot, while also having the advantage of increased capacity and reduced recoil. Modern .45 acp is overkill against most targets (which isn't a bad thing in itself, but better to have the extra capacity if you don't really have to trade a significant reduction in lethality for it).

        2 months ago
  • Nathan j

    This has been a very interesting post! Along with comments as well! I currently carry a .40 s&w. Due to its bulky size I generally leave it wedged in between the front seats of my truck so I can access it fairly quickly, I never badly carry it because of the uncomfortable size and also because I live in Florida a lot of people still don’t support concealed carry as much as I’d like them to so I worry about it peaking out from under the bottom of my shirt and causing an issue with someone. I am currently looking into a kimber ultra carry ii or a sig p938. I am really leaning toward the dog in a .45 it also comes in 9mm though for who likes that. Does anybody have one of these that can state how their carrying experience has been? As well as reliability? I would probably carry the gun inside the waist. I know the kimber is a little bit bigger but from what I can tell not a noticeable difference because the sig comes with an extended clip with a finger grip on it which you would definitely want if you didn’t want your little finger to hang off the bottom. I am still open to 9mm that’s why I was considering the sig but I do love the style and extra safety features of the kimber.

    1 year ago
  • Gary

    Years ago when 9mm was the craze I purchased a Browning model 39. When i saw people who were actually shot with it and survived I opted for the 40 S&W. My dream gun has always been a 1911 in 45 cal but after watching the video I'm on the fence again. Capacity is a good factor to concern as long as rounds are selectively placed otherwise is just becomes another spray and part scenario. Maybe a 1911 in 9mm and good defensive ammo is in my future. I like the heavier gun though due to the longer site radius, repeat target acquisition and the ability to steady the weapon. What do you think?

    1 year ago
  • Big Sarge

    230 grain .45 +p at 950fps is moving at least as fast as the 9mm subsonic 147 grain round. As far as capacity goes, I live in a 10 round state. I’ll take the big 45 any day.

    1 year ago
  • The Probert

    "Well, this might rock your world but I’d recommend getting one of each." Best advice ever.

    1 year ago
  • Holmes

    Brandon Harville, There is a link to a notorious anti-gun organization in your article. I'm sure when you wrote your "9mm vs .45 ACP" article back in April 2017, your link labeled "canceled out in some states" did go to "smartgunlaws.org" where their information on gun laws was displayed. But no more. Today it sends your readers to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence." This far Left, anti-gun rights organization slants and grossly misrepresents events by omitting vital information from their "articles" and adding bald faced lies. Saying Islamic Terrorist attacks were really just another "gun violence incident" is a vile misrepresentation of reality. Please take immediate action to change this link and ensure no other articles on Pew Pew Tactical contain links to that dishonest propaganda site.

    1 year ago
    • Eric Hung

      Hi Holmes, you're right. I'm removing that link since it looks like it was redirected.

      1 year ago
  • Matthew

    As a beginner, I'm going hiking with lots of bears. which should I use a 9 mm or a .45?

    1 year ago
    • Kevin

      If worried about an encounter with bears, I'd take nothing less than 357 Mag. or 44 Mag. for Grizzly. On the other OTH, if you're proficient with either the 9mm or 45 AUTO, then, go with it. Shot placement will be your main concern with any bear. I've taken black bear with both the 44 mag. and 45LC with one shot kills, both head shots. One of the biggest I've seen taken was 465lb. with two shots in the heart from a 40 S&W. All this being said, get good with whatever you get, then, just go with.

      9 months ago
    • NAC

      12 ga shotgun ask anyone outfitter in Alaska what they carry you can buy a Shockwave and have more power then any pistol.

      1 year ago
    • Craven

      If you're hiking with bears, I presume they would protect you. Otherwise, 30.06 30.30 .308

      1 year ago
      • David

        .45-70 also!

        1 year ago
    • Greg

      In that case consider a 10mm or .357 magnum (better get a .44 magnum) depending on how big the bears are.

      1 year ago
    • Eric Hung

      If there's bears...I'd go with bear spray first. If you're really intent on a firearm...go bigger.

      1 year ago
    • BeardedFly

      10mm

      1 year ago
  • John

    In the old days cowboys put 5 rounds in their 6 shooter and money in the last chamber to be used to bury them. The other point is shoot someone in the hand with a 9 he drop his gun shoot them with a 45 they will drop their hand. If you're a professional you should hit what your shooting at, or don't carry,

    2 years ago
  • Cliff

    Enjoyed the reasoned comments. Good show all. I was a die hard .45 fan but when I got the concealed license, it just wasn't comfortable to carry. After some trial and error I did find a 9mm I was comfortable with and it concealed well. Like many others, I use the .45 at home (and in the car) with the primary at home a Mossberg Persuader. If you come into my home, they're carrying what's left out in a bag.

    2 years ago
  • James Brown

    I carry a Glock 30 concealed . I prefer more shock per hit. I also carry the Ruger LC9 as a backup. I personally know of more more people surviving being shot with a 9 than a 45acp. Two were head shots. I'd prefer to hit with a slow moving baseball than a faster golf ball . But this is my decision. This debate of 9 versus 45 just comes down to personal choice with today's ammo.

    2 years ago
  • Matt

    Never ending dilemma: 9mm or .45, AR-15 or AK47, BMW or Mercedes, Apples or Oranges... Personally I like them all! :)

    2 years ago
  • Elizabeth

    Here's an old lady's take on it: the best gun/caliber is what YOU shoot best. My "bedroom" gun (the one I keep ready for home defense situation) is a 1911 Gov. 45ACP. Why? Because out of all my handguns, this is the one I'm most accurate with. I don't rely on the bullet (nor the sound of racking the gun, nor the sound of explosion to scare the intruder away). I rely on my skill to execute the shot. The best bullet will fail, if shot placement is poor. Next, speed of follow-up shots doesn't come from the caliber. It comes from the shooter. It's both in physical and mental ability. I'll be shooting faster when I'm more confident that I can hit the target (the closer the distance; the bigger the target; the easier to handle, more accurate the gun...). And that's why an old lady clings to her old 1911 :)

    2 years ago
    • Tom

      My kind of old LADY,but,she's probably too young for me.

      1 year ago
    • Bob W.

      God bless you Miss! :)

      2 years ago
  • Scott

    What an awesome read. All the comments are great. It gives perspective from both sides. I carry both 9mm and .45 ACP (not at the same time.) It just depends on what I am wearing and how much concealment I want. I have a Sig 1911 Ultra Compact .45 and a Sig P938 9mm. The 9mm is super small and light weight (about 16oz empty) and the 1911 weighs almost twice that. The 1911 has a 3.3" barrel and is also small. Both in MY OPINION have similar kick to them. I don't want to carry anything bigger. I do take into consideration penetration behind what I am aiming at with the 9mm because of over penetration, but you must ALWAYS be aware of what is behind the perp. A shift to the right or left could clear the background behind them. It is always situational awareness no matter what.

    2 years ago
  • John

    Call me crazy but home defense SCREAMS for a good ole Mossberg cruiser with a nice laser sight and maybe a strong, blinding flashlight for perps' who go 'bump in the night' into your coffee table. It'll take all kinds of enthusiasm away from your intruder whether you use choked turkey shot or 00. Less 'intent' to kill when LEO show up to take your statement and you're less likely to injure a family member 3 rooms away! Also loud as hell - enough to alert everyone in the house and even if you miss, the intruder is less likely to stick around to hear the mechanics of a pump signaling a second shot is on the way whether they're armed with a piece or a crowbar, unless they intend to harm you, rather than just steal your stuff. 9mm in the field just makes sense, for all the reasons Eric lists plus those of you fine, well informed readers. Full sized .45 or .50 for when you really mean 'permanent' and final business and .300 BLK fmj rounds through a sbr (I know, tsk, tsk) or tactical pistola for 1200-1300 fps during a full blown war or zombie apocalypse! Will still have a long-range, full length rifle or carbine slung over my shoulder too...Why compromise when it comes down to multiple enemies wanting you dead or wanting to taste your brain? Talk about high-capacity magazines! Yes, I fully appreciate state round limitations (even if I don't necessarily agree with them) so long as I have enough mags to hold out in such a life/death event., God forbid.... Still, nothing like the feel of a nice heavy, ..45. customized to your liking as your arsenal 'anchor'. Even better if you have the means and the skills to build one yourself, get to know what you're shooting inside and out!

    2 years ago
  • ROBERT E.

    I really admire the professional comments that was written. However, how about the hollow point bullets that's suppose to stop and explode once they enter the body.Is that a myth or not? Please inform. What is the best Hollow Points for a Glock 19? . Thank You!

    2 years ago
    • Jack

      Don't know about explode, but a good hollow point will EXPAND. There are many good rounds for the G19 for social work. WIth that size gun/barrel you have lots of options. DoubleTap.com uses Speer Gold Dots and has some hot loads. Hornady has an XTP +P 135gr that is an excellent design. Some people carry a 124gr for summer and 147gr in cold climates where the BG might be wearing a Carhartt over sweaters, etc. BTW, I like the 9mm and .45 pretty much equally and have both calibers. For HD, I have a 12gauge but my G19 is fine. For CCW I'll carry it in winter, then my G43 in summer and an LCP2 .380 BUG in my pocket.

      2 years ago
  • jon

    My first thought is: .45 is better because it's bigger. As mentioned by another person's comment above, any more than a couple of rounds down range may escalate the possibility of your prosecution, (Unless you are against multiple attackers.). Aside from that, aren't they using the same bullet technology on .45 as they are on 9mm? Wouldn't that make the.45 leap farther ahead again, in terms of "better"?

    2 years ago
    • joe

      I could not agree more! Good point.

      2 years ago
  • Jay Fryman

    any lower powder grain ammo with a soft or no jacket on the led.. Most people I know use hollow points as they tend to have less penetration through walls and the human body but leave aone nasty show stopping wound...

    2 years ago
  • Joseph Jones

    What is a "safer" 9mm ammo for home protection, one with similar (or if possible less) penetration risk vs. the average .45 ammo? I plan to soon buy a 9mm or .45. I love Eric's articles. Well written, and no trash talking, rare in the gun world. Thanks, Eric!

    2 years ago
  • John Baker

    have the .45 pistol/carbine combo, luv 'em. practice once a month, and can do 6" group at 8-10 meters with pistol... as far as pretty, get the desert camo... and I had money left over for ammo. Can't go wrong with that.

    2 years ago
  • Jay Fryman

    Having some experience with both calibers and owning every one you can name I would also like to mention body armor/bullet proof vest testing. A 9mm will sting ya but a 45 will break your ribs.... Just my two cents. Not that a low rent trash bag would be wearing a vest if he decides to break in your casa but with the cost of bullet resistant vests getting cheaper and cheaper any things possible. My advice is practice, practice, practice!! Muscle memory combined with good ole fashion "practice makes perfect" will allow you to drop a man in one shot and it won't matter what you grab in the night! Except for maybe a BB gun!

    2 years ago
  • Sean

    Hmmm, always been a 1911 45cal chap,although 38cal is certainly better than 9mm which has been known to bounce off suspects believe it or not.Good article,interesting points! Thanks

    2 years ago
    • Full Metal Sweater

      Did the "suspects" who had 9mm rounds bounce off of them happen to be wearing red underwear and a big "S" on their chest. I really hope you were joking with your statement. If not please remember Grand Theft Auto is just a video game, not real life.

      1 year ago
  • Wes

    ERIC! (Pew Pew Eric) Keep the awesome info coming, I love your emails and love your site! Thanks for bringing our gun culture forward...

    2 years ago
  • Wes

    Cody! You effin ROCK! I could not agree with you more on every level.

    2 years ago
  • Peter

    Which is best? Whichever caliber you shoot most accurately. I have pistols chambered in .22lr, 9mm Luger, .40 S7W, 357 SIG, and .45 ACP. Apart from the .22lr, I would consider using any of them for self-defense. My personal preference for a home defense handgun is a full-sized pistol chambered in .45 ACP. For mid-sized pistols I like .40 S&W which tends to cut the difference in capacity, ammunition cost, projectile mass, and muzzle velocity between 9mm and .45 pretty nicely. For compact or subcompact pistols I tend to favor 9mm due to recoil considerations in the smaller, lighter guns, and the magazine capacity limitations. I might possibly be able to shoot 9mm slightly faster but I seem to have consistently better first shot accuracy with .40 S&W and 45 ACP.

    2 years ago
    • Adam w

      I don't think i would hesitate to use my ruger 1022 for home defense with modern rounds like stingers or velocitors the new browning rounds that go 1450 fps. i have used them on Coyotes and have seen the damage they are quite impressive. I would recon my 5 or close to 6 inch barrel Walther p 22 loaded with them with rapid shots would do okay . My father is a Doctor and interning in the E.R. His first patient was a guy shot right by the belly button. He didn't make it and when they found the round it was in his neck. I realize these instances are rare but one things for sure i can cut a target in half with rapid shots so easily with a 1022 because of zero recoil i think i could shoot 4 rounds to 1 outta my 45. I am not sure if i would like to be hit by one 45 acp or 4 high velocity hollow point 22's ( honestly i can say neither but i do not disagree just throwing my 2 cents in it is all about shot control and placement. Not always which round is bigger, faster, more powerful!!!!

      2 years ago
  • Joe

    First; opinions are like, well you know, the hole on your back side. First mag size for home or personal defense holds no water! In the majority of the states, anything more than 2 rounds down range puts in in the pin for excessive force! With that being said it all lies on personal preference. The best home defense round of all time is a good old 12 gauge 2 3/4" low brass #6 shot. It stops would be's and penetration is a non issue. I prefer to carry a 45acp because it rips arms off bodies and a 12 gauge in the house. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts.

    2 years ago
  • Jim

    Today's 45s aren't that slow. The ones that I carry travel at 1000 fps. A big, fat, 230 grain hollow point at that speed will drop the MF faster than a 9mm any day of the week.. My state has a 10 round limit. I'll take 10 "flying ashtrays" over the puny 9mm anytime.

    2 years ago
    • Ed

      Or pick up some Federal HST 185 grain 45 ACP, 1140 fps! That's up in 10mm territory!

      2 years ago
  • Mark R. Holcomb

    9mm vs. .45. I say different tools for different tasks. If I am going mowing in bear country, my 1911A1 and eight FMJS are with me in case God forbid a bear attack.s. If I am passing through Welfareville and Methport on my way to the Promised Land, My TP 9 with 5 extra loaded 17 round magazines of 115 grain JHP will be with me. And if a Riot Festival ;looms, I'll be riding in the back seat doing Green Beret carry of either my AK or AR, too. I want harm for nobody, and especially me and mine, too.

    2 years ago
    • Cody

      I'm not sure 45 is a good choice for bear country, most folks choose a large caliber magnum revolver with bonded solids for that job. The rest of your post I am 100% onboard with!

      2 years ago
      • ROBERT E.

        What about a 357 Magnum?

        2 years ago
  • Craig

    Good show! I thought this was going to get way uglier in the comments. Thanks for the article, and for the mature comments. I'm carrying a 45, and it was because of the lesser penetration that I decided on it. But it's like buying a vehicle, or picking out a new bass as far as there are pros and cons to each one. For me, it's an SR1911, an old 4x4 Toyota with a stick, and a Pedulla...

    2 years ago
    • Adam W.

      my choices on all 3 are exactly the same i thought that was oddly coincidental since all 3 are not the most common choices. Usually i hear 40 cal ford truck fender blah blah blah

      2 years ago
  • Brent

    I think the 10mm trumps them both...

    2 years ago
    • Cody

      By that logic the 50 AE is even better!

      2 years ago
  • Leroy

    Over penetration should not be an issue. If you're afraid of what's behind your target you shouldn't be shooting in the first place.

    2 years ago
    • Matthew Collins

      The problem is you can't always be sure of what's behind your target in a defensive situation. In a self-defense scenario, you're using your firearm because if you don't, you or a loved one will be harmed. If you live in an apartment, or even a neighborhood, there's no way to know what's behind your target. FMJs go through wood, plaster, sheet rock, and most anything else in your walls like its nothing, so there's no way to know what it may hit on the other side. Its not about hitting something or someone behind the assailant, it's about hitting something through the wall and the garden fence behind the assailant.

      2 years ago
      • Cody

        No one in their right mind willingly chooses to use FMJs in a pistol or rifle for self-defense. Expanding bullets passing through a bad guy should have little energy left, just don't miss.

        2 years ago
    • Andrew

      Scenario: Armed burglar breaks in and is standing in the area in which your child/roommate's facilities is now based behind him. Option one; You choose to have ammunition in your pistol that is know to over penetrate because why would you need a bullet that doesn't fully penetrate something. Now you must shout for him to get down/leave, because your selected ammunition could possibly over penetrate and harm someone in another room, and hope the situation doesn't escalate to him reacting in instinctive action by charging or shooting at you. This would most likely result in you firing at the assailant in a less accurate fashion as well as possibly harming others. Option two; You select a certain ammunition that has been proved to not fully penetrate. You fire at the armed person/s and take down the threat. The situation is now dissolved without any bystanders in the background getting injured. Most situations are going to involve you protecting/defending yourself with others in the background. If you conceal carry then there is a 90% chance of bystanders being in your firing line. Not every confrontation is going to be 'range based'.

      2 years ago
      • Cody

        Wrong, you change the angle. Drop to a knee which will angle your bullet trajectory upwards and if the rounds exit his body they should be travelling in a safe direction.

        2 years ago
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