Confused by all these new laws and what makes an AR-15 “featureless” so you might not have to register it as an assault weapon (AW)?
A featureless rifle (in California) is one that does not have any of the following:
- pistol grip
- thumbhole stock
- telescoping/folding stock
- flash hider
- grenade or flare launcher
- forward pistol grip
A featureless rifle allows the use of detachable magazines and lawfully owned standard-capacity magazines.
A little confused? We’ve got you covered. Plus with videos of our favorite setups.
Learn exactly what makes an AR-15 “featureless,” how it allows the use of the magazine release and larger magazines, and how to build one with recommendations for appropriate grips, stocks, and muzzle devices.

Plus if it all sounds too difficult…the best new “Bullet Buttons” that let you have all the features. Hint…it’s the AR MagLock + Patriot Pin combo.
Disclaimer: this is not legal advice and you should double-check everything, especially since the laws surrounding this always seem to be in flux. I’m also writing this mostly towards residents in California, but New York residents can also benefit.
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What Makes an AR-15 “Featureless”
First, let’s go over what makes an AR “featureless” before diving into the laws.
This flowchart from Calguns.net is perfect for making sure your semi-auto centerfire rifle is legal.
This works for other semi-auto centerfire rifles but I’m using the example of the AR-15 since it’s the most popular.
Please download the flowchart as well as following along with my emphasis edits (in poop brown) below:

- Start: Begin here and if you bought your rifle at a legit FFL, it should pass everything with flying colors as you move down with the brown line.
- Section A: Here is where it gets interesting for rifles…whether or not it can have a detachable magazine. Most FFL bought new rifles take the “No” detachable magazine path to Section B.
- Section B: You might have heard of the term “bullet button” which is just a branded name for magazine locks that require a tool (and a bullet is considered a “tool”) to remove the magazine. When you just use your finger…you cannot release the magazine like normal. The .gif shows some ingenuity in adding a little protrusion to the bottom of a magazine to active the bullet button. Past 2018 you’ll need more than a simple tool…read on!

- Section C+D: This is where “featureless” comes into play since we will not have the features dictated in CCR 11 § 5469 and Penal Code § 30515.
- Pistol Grip
- Thumbhole Stock
- Folding/Telescoping Stock
- Grenade Launcher or Flare Launcher
- Flash Suppressor
- Forward Pistol Grip
Still with me?
Things You Can’t Have on a Featureless Rifle
Pistol Grip
What you see on all normal AR-15s. It allows you to hold it in a pistol fashion where the web between the thumb and the finger rests below the exposed trigger when firing. Yea…I had to think about that for a minute too.

Thumbhole Stock
This monstrosity below is an example of a thumbhole stock where the thumb of the trigger hand can go through the stock when firing.

Folding/Telescoping Stock
The folding stock allows you to fold the stock over to the side so the overall gun is much smaller when not in use. While the telescoping stock is very standard and more often known as a collapsible stock.


Grenade Launcher or Flare Launcher
The big tubes underneath the standard barrel. Not seeing a whole lot out there, so yea…

Flash Hider/Suppressor
A device attached to the front muzzle that reduces the flash from shooting. They are mostly for preventing the user being blinded by the flash at night, rather than hiding the flash from spectators, although that happens too.

There are a lot of muzzle devices, and the big difference is that flash suppressors have a bigger cavity at the exit end than the bullet caliber when compared to muzzle breaks or compensators.
Flash suppressors usually come in two flavors…birdcage and multi-prong.



Forward Pistol Grip
Commonly known as the vertical foregrip since they can be grasped in a pistol-like fashion.

Why Would I Want a Featureless Rifle?
Seems like you miss out on a lot of cool stuff, so why would you want a featureless AR-15?
The big reason was hidden above in Section A…the ability to not have a bullet button and use your magazine release as it was intended.

And for those who have standard/high-capacity magazines, you are only allowed to use them in “featureless” builds. Bullet-button rifles have a maximum of 10-round magazines.
However, this is set to change in California with the new Gunmageddon Laws. Now the primary bonus of making a featureless rifle is that you do not have to register it as an assault weapon.
Those standard/high-cap magazines I talked about above…they were scheduled to become illegal in CA on July 1, 2017 but the law was blocked by a judge.
California Assault Weapon Laws (2019+)

Again, I’m not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. Also, this doesn’t cover all the “Gunmageddon Laws,” just the main ones that deal with AR-15s and featureless rifles.
General
- As of January 1, 2017, you can no longer buy/make/import the standard bullet-buttoned AR-15 as we know it since it is now an assault rifle. The definition of a “fixed magazine” was changed from having to use a tool to something that requires disassembly of the firearm action.
- For those of you who got one before…you have until January 1, 2018 to either register it as an assault weapon or make it featureless. Or you can also surrender it, sell it outside of CA, etc…basically stuff you probably don’t want to do.
- Registration is here and costs around $20.
- If you register, there’s all sorts of fun things that come along with it…travel restrictions, inability to sell in CA, inability to lend, inability to transfer to a family member even if you die, etc. Essentially it will die with you.
- However, if you make a registered assault weapon (RAW) into a featureless one, you should be able to “de-register” it later.
- More info here from Firearms Policy Coalition.
Featureless & Best New Bullet Buttons
- You can avoid registering as an assault weapon if it no longer meets the requirements…aka a “featureless” build. Find out how to do that after this law section.
- You should also be able to keep the evil features and not register if you adhere to the new definition of “fixed magazine”…aka use one of the new bullet buttons that require disassembly of the action such as the ARMagLock and Patriot Pin. No more a simple pin into the bullet button.

AR Pistols & 80%-ers
- AR pistols must follow the new laws PLUS not have a threaded barrel nor handguards. So you’ll have to pin/weld an approved muzzle device and somehow not have handguards. Basically…you’ll have to register or use the new type of bullet button.
- 80% builds are still legal. But you have to stay afloat of the new laws. Any new builds cannot be made into an AW. AB 857 requires that by Jan 1, 2019, all completed firearms have a serial number. If you engrave prior to July 1, 2018, you do not need to notify any government entity. But if you do it after, you’ll have to apply to the state (pay fees, get a serial number, etc). More info here.
Worth mentioning that in 2021, Miller vs. Bonta took California’s assault weapons ban to court, with Judge Roger Benitez ruling that the ban was unconstitutional. Unfortunately, a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit issued a stay, ultimately leaving the ban in place as the case works its way through the appeals process.
Ready to build or upgrade (or rather…downgrade) to a featureless rifle?
Let’s go through each of the features again with our suggestions of how to make them compliant.

Best Featureless Muzzle Devices
On the easier side to fix…just don’t have one and pick up a thread protector.
Or opt for a muzzle brake/compensator instead.

If it talks about flash hiding or suppressing in the description, just err on the safe side and don’t get it.
Here is one of our tested favorites…
Precision Armament M4-72 Severe Duty
If you want something with the best recoil reduction and least reticle movement…look at the Precision Armament M4-72 Severe Duty.
See it in action for side blast, decibel reading, and reticle movement.
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Check out the rest (and even more videos) in our Best AR-15 Muzzle Brakes & Compensators article.
Best Featureless Grips
The biggest aesthetic and functional change you’ll do in your quest to go featureless.

It might look odd/ugly, but I’ve found that I quickly adapted to the different grip.
Strike Industries MegaFin
The MegaFin adds a very nice thumbshelf for right-handed shooters that gives you a lot more control.

However, if you want easy access to the safety lever, you’ll likely need an ambidextrous safety like the Seekins used that is turned the opposite way.

Here it is in action…easy to engage and safety.
And great for running and gunning. One of my top recommendations.
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Juggernaut Tactical Grip
My current favorite for being the most comfortable…and with the possibility of getting your hand around the grip for most hand sizes.
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AND since most can get your thumb around the side, you don’t need to go the ambidextrous safety route.

Lastly, it’s built super beefy out of aluminum compared to the polymer of the other guys.
See even more Featureless Grips for the AR & AK in our full roundup.
Best Featureless Stocks & Pinning Options
Many internet people say you can blind pin and epoxy your current collapsible stock so that it can no longer move, but again, I like to err on the safe side with a fixed stock.

Magpul MOE Fixed Stock
What I used to run in my featureless rifle. Affordable, sturdy, and there’s no questioning that it is fixed.
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A2 Buttstock
Very standard A2 buttstock for a more retro look and with storage compartments.
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Blind Pinning and Epoxying
If you really love your current buttstock or really want to save money, you can go ahead with blind pinning and epoxying your buttstock.
All it takes is drilling through the buttstock and some of the buffer tube, putting in a roll pin, and epoxying it over. Some people even do it on both sides as an extra measure.

I detail what I did for a new build here: How to Blind Pin an Adjustable Stock.
Stock Lok
The Stock Lok is something new that has come out that swaps out the spring-loaded adjustment pin for something fixed. More expensive at $35 but you don’t need to drill and pin.

Strike Industries Stock Stop
The newest thing out is the Stock Stop from Strike.
You cut a rubber piece so that it fits your buffer tube and only shows one hole.

And slip on your regular stock until it clicks in that hole.
Voila…fixed stock!
Only thing is you can’t select a custom length since there’s that stopper in the front. Make sure the 2nd to last hole works for you.

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Need more stocks…especially now that you can use the Stock Stop?
Check out the rest of our favorite AR-15 Buttstocks where we rate them based on weight, price, and of course…cheekweld.

Thumbhole Stock, Grenade/Flare Launcher, Forward Pistol Grip
These last three are easy to take care of…just don’t have them!
There’s some debate on whether or not the Magpul AFG is considered a forward pistol grip, but again…I’d just be safe and not have it.
Magpul AFG: Probably not a forward pistol grip since it’s more angeled…but why risk it. ($33)

Best New “Bullet Buttons”
Even though this article is about featureless…I know you want to know about the best new “bullet buttons.”
Current law makes it ok if your magazine is fixed and the upper/lower receiver halves are opened up in order to release the magazine.
The best “new” bullet button I like is the AR MagLock + Patriot Pin.

Pretty easy to install (especially if you’re building) and really quick mechanism to release the rear due to the Patriot Pin.
And here it is in action for a tactical reload.
Regular empty mag reloads take a little longer you’ll see in the review.
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Other Options
Stag 15 Tactical NY/CA Compliant

After all the discussion about the various “featureless” features, you might wonder why we’re including a rifle with a pretty clearly defined pistol grip.

Stag Arms created a version of their Stag 15 that included a non-removable 10-round magazine. This enables shooters to enjoy the normal ergonomics of the AR-15 rifle.
To achieve this, you have to open the upper receiver, load the magazine from the top, then close the gun back up. After running the charging handle, you can begin shooting.
This is a pretty cool option if you don’t want a giant fin on your rifle and you aren’t getting into an engagement where reloads might be a matter of high importance!
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Conclusion
So there you have it, how to make a “featureless” AR-15 or other rifles in California/New York.

Want more of our best guns and gear? Check out our Best AR-15 Upgrades and Best AR-15 Scopes & Optics.

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You mention CA/NY laws a lot but don't you mention NJ laws; aren't they similar to NY?
What are the laws about converting my centerfire into a rimfire rifle? Can I then put vertical grips, flash hiders, etc. on the rifle?
What are the laws about converting my centerfire into a rimfire rifle? Can I then put vertical grips, flash hiders, etc. on the rifle?
Can single shot ar's be assault weapons. Even if they have pistol grips and removable mag?
Just seems easier to leave CA or NY and never look back.
All these so-called "featureless" rifles will only be "legal" until the communists in the respective states wise up and change the law, yet again, thus declaring your "featureless" mods don't meet the legal standard.
Amendment II
A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Hot garbage. I’d leave the state or live with being a felon.
You say, “…live with being a felon,” but have you examined life in the CA state pen? Might want to reconsider..
They are trying to dissuade people from buying guns in California. They make it confusing and difficult on purpose; they want people to say, “oh it’s too complicated to keep up with the laws, blah blah blah, so I’m just not going to bother buying a gun.” This is totally against the 2nd Amendment. It’s infuriating. What did I do to “skirt” the law? I went and got my FFL.
California 1978 model colt ar15 sp1 question. Only two options in order to possess one?
1. make it features?
2. keep it all original but install a "mag lock?"
What are my options? Thanks
None. Specifically banned by make and model. Lookup the Kasler List...
Strip the lower and take it out of the equation. If the lower was one of Colt’s large pin types, you’ll need a new lower parts kit. All the other parts, upper, buttstock are completely fine. Just buy a new lower and get the offset bushing for the front pivot hole on the upper (If it was the offset version). Build it featureless and you’re good to go.
Thank you very much for all the info, I bought my AR-15 lower years ago, anticipating a ban and never built it out. Thanks or the info on the new laws for us Californians, hopefully one day we will stop getting screwed over by the far reaching government.
You're going to continue to keep getting screwed over because you don't take the time to do the research for the correct political candidate. Stop voting along party lines and start voting pro 2A.
This is some serious ridiculousness. I am thankful I do not live in either of these states.
Yet another super informative article from PPT! I just picked up my first (CA) AR and want to be sure I am compliant and don’t end up in a bad spot. I was curious about the ‘hammerhead’ style grip as the ‘fin’ type doesn’t feel right. Will give the Resurgent Arms Grip a try. Pew Pew!
This is absolutely ridiculous. I was not aware that states are requiring all this B.S. It would be akin to the state telling you that you had to now drive your car with 1/2 a steering wheel, 5 gallons of gas and no muffler or tail pipe. You then get a felony if you don’t fully comply with their UNSAFE demands. Our founding fathers are disappointed.
The paddle type grip is very unsafe...
Very informative article.
Thank you!
what is the name of that extended safety lever please?
Great article. Signing up for future ones. Did I understand the Bullet button section correctly? In order for it to truly be featureless you have to remove the Bullet Button? I have two featureless rifles using Thordsten stocks, but I left the Bullet Buttons in. I ought to remove them? Thanks.
Correct, bullet buttons off!
I live in California and have an AR-15 that I bought in 1999. I registered it before that 2000 registration requirement. AR's from back then arent required to make any of these changes right?
Let’s say I’m purchasing an AR online from a seller in a different state and doing a transfer through my local FFL. Does the AR have to have all the featureless features before shipping, or am I able to order as is and modify features upon delivery?
Generally speaking, it will need to be in a compliant form before entering the state. There are a few FFLs in CA that have an AW permit that would allow them to accept a non-compliant firearm and then convert it, but the last I checked the number of FFLs that had the permit was under 20 in the whole state.
Its so much easier to simply slap a Juggernaut Hellfighter on a full feature AR, the mag replace time is a fraction of a second slower than stock and you can build out a beautiful platform. Every AR operator in Ca has a couple 30 round P Mags in the bag and simply shoot the 10s at the range. With ammo tight who wants to spew out 30 round groups anyway?
I’ve watched a bunch of vids and looked at the different products for a while.
IMO and per another YT'br the featureless route keeps it functioning as designed minus some ergo bs, and you can still use your legal mags.
Are any of the featureless parts available actually CA DOJ approved or are we all potentially the first case brought to trial?
I see on many vendor sites that they are not and have this.....(Disclaimer: This product has NOT been approved by the CA DOJ. )
Actually, ARMaglock is absolutely legal to use on your ar15 in the state of Cali. AYF singed off on it as legate to use in California. But you do what you want. People like us laugh at the featureless rifle people. Their hand is all in the wrong position to fire any firearm with you hand on that ridiculous s
Shark Fin!! WTF!!
Hey all! Like many CA residents I am just now hearing about a lot of these law updates and am trying to figure out which way I would like to lean, featureless or new bullet button mod. One of the featureless mods I am skeptical about is the stock stop. It makes only 1 locking position but you could still technically use your rifle with the stock slammed all the way forward.... It wouldn't be "locked in" but it would still be held in place with your shoulder making TWO locations the stock could be used.
Thoughts?
The Stock Stop from Strike Industries actually locks it in place both front and back so it can only be used in 1 location. You cannot move the stock forward or backward without disassembling it and removing at least half of the Stock Stop. It is a very common compliance option and one that several of us at PPT use.
Thank you very much for the speedy response, I appreciate it! Trying to tippy toe around these ridiculous laws is so much easier when there is a community to reach out to. From my understanding after reviewing the website the stock stop is sold from and watching install/review videos, it is just covering 5 of the 6 possible lock locations with only the 5th and 6th location being capable of being used. Once installed the stock can only lock into 1 location, BUT you can still give your detent lever a squeeze and push your stock forward around a quarter inch. The detent does not lock into a recessed hole in this position, but the firearm is still very capable of being fired with the stock in your shoulder in this position. Maybe I am just confused with what defines a "fixed" stock but it seems that there is still 2 viable locations in which you can shoulder the firearm and fire it.
This is the review I watched for reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk2rpbHdko8
The video makes it look a lot worse than it really is. In actual use, it's locked in fairly tight and doesn't have much wiggle room if you trim the stop right. Used correctly and the pin cannot escape the hole that it is placed in and has effectively zero movement. "Fixed stock" in the PC has a fairly grey definition, but it doesn't say anything about it needing to be perfectly unable to move even in the slightest. Considering that the Stock Stop has been on the market for years and I've never heard of any case being brought against someone for using it, I would view it as a very safe option legally.
The "assault weapons" ban is going to jury trial in California January 2021. Hopefully this all found unconstitutional and you can buy whatever you want then.
Still prefer the Juggernaut
+1
I am new to the AR game in CA. I’m looking for a list of a complete build just on your recommendations on what to buy. Is there such a list like buy these iron sites, this barrel? Or recommend a place to look?
Look up Palmetto State Armory online. They have some upper kits that you would pair with a stripped lower, which you can also purchase from them. The lower is considered the “registrable firearm” and so must ship to an FFL.
I have a Mega Arms stripped lower I bought a while back and never got started. I read your article and am very confused. This would be my first build. Do you have any recommendations on what to buy/pair for this lower to get started on the build? BTW, I live in California.
Was linked here from the CT law page, but your featureless builds won’t work in CT due to the definition of finger placement in relation to the action. Any AR15 style weapon in CT has to either be a pre ban weapon or a firearm categorized as an “other”. Most folks have been getting “others” due to the typical price gouging that comes with a product with limited numbers like lowers made before Sept. 1994.
Other than that, centerfire semiautomatics in a traditional stock are good to go. It sucks to jump through hoops like that, but it is what it is in a blue state.
Downloaded from the CA DOJ
If the following is true, how does making our AR15 open up separating the upper from the lower before we can drop the clip, not an AW?
This is copied from their website today, March 3, 2020.
Generic Characteristics Defining Assault Weapons:
12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Penal Code section 12276, “assault weapon” shall also mean the following: Rifles
(1)
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A)
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B)
A thumbhole stock.
(C)
A folding or telescoping stock.
(D)
A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E)
A flash suppressor.
(F)
A forward pistol grip.
(2)
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3)
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
Note: Bayonets and bayonet lugs are not assault weapon characteristics under California law.
The key point is "A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:".
What the mag lock does is make it so that the rifle doesn't have a detachable magazine. By supporting the upper and lower you are "disassembling" the rifle to release the fixed-magazine.
Thank You.
I've actually been doing a lot of research and ended up figuring it out. Thanks Again. Mike
Why in the world would the people of California want these laws????? Was it to try and stop the LAPD from shooting so many people at once?
Ironically: cops are exempt from the Assault Weapons Ban and the California handgun roster, despite the people of San Francisco and LA (effectively the ruling party of the state) telling everyone that they're madmen who hunt minorities and are violent psychopaths in general. You can't reason with them; just play by the rules so you yourself don't end up ruining your life because you didn't follow their arbitrary guidelines on what a rifle can look like.
Thanks for being here! I have just started to build an AR 15! Took me long enough lol! I live in the wonderful state of Ca.! I have an ar maglock on my lower and was wondering if I could put a boyds wood stock and pistol grip on it? Any help would be appreciated!
Glad we could help! Yes, with a maglock you can put all the fun features you want on. A boyds wood stock and pistol grip is good to go!
Look eric I appreciate this article a lot since i live in California but its obvious to anyone at this point that california are making law after law to render our weapons ineffective when they come to take them.They know if they just took them their would be rebellion.How more focus on how to get involved in the legal process to stop them or even reverse the laws in place.Pretty soon they are going to flood texas with enough democrats so they can do the same thing their.The pen is mightier than the sword.Teach us how to use the pen eric.Please before its too late
This article is incorrect. Since AR pistols have magazines outside the grip they MUST be maglocked and therefor can have threaded barrel hand guards etc...
I agree, I called my local gun store and the pistol grip u can wrap your hands around is illegal. And any vertical foregrip.
I heard that the Stock Stop was not CA legal.
There is no official determination either way - however, as Strike understands the law it should be in compliance.
Interesting article. Kinda dumb laws. I get the point of reducing concealability or mag size / increasing reload time COULD arguably impact public safety, but I'm not sure how eliminating features like pistol grips and flash suppressors make people safer.
Separately, if you use Oprah as a punching bag people are going to think you, like lots of gun enthusiasts, are racist, even if you're not. While I'm not an Oprah fan it's probably a poor choice of graphic
Oprah IS racist, using her mug isn't racist. It simply mocks her ignorance. A billionaire black female in a racist country. Who would have thought?
It would if mass shooters take the time to make sure they commit their crimes with CA compliant rifles. The whole thing is political and does not impact public safety at all.
Dont I insinuate that opera is round like a punching bag fat shaming is just as bad these days.... lol
Does anyone know of a California compliant magazine release for the Spike Glock 9mm lower? I am moving to Ca and need to get myself legal or change my weapon to featureless.
Thanks in advance for any help!
I don't think I've seen anyone offer any kind of fixed magazine option for 9mm lowers, personally, my AR-9 is featureless. Sorry!
I'm 99% sure Its considered a pistol, so is beholden to an entire different set of laws
I was told that if I build a featureless rifle, the muzzle brake needs to be pin and welded on. Even though the barrel length is already 16inches and the over all length of the rifle is over the 30inch mark. Is that true is, or it just fear spreading.
For California that is incorrect, a muzzle brake or compensator does not have to be permanently attached. I believe for either NJ or NY it does - that is where the confusion stems from. But I might be wrong on the second part.
Ya, I'm in California so that's some good news to hear! Thanks David!!
It doesn't have to be pinned and welded in California if the barrel is already 16 inches. It's common for people here to pin & weld muzzle devices on 14.5 inch barrels in order to meet the 16-inch barrel requirement.
I've always heard that if my rifle is not put together, they are just parts. I do not want to be illegal, but at the same time I want my parts. I just usually throw my sights on my friends rifle when we go out plinking and just keep mine torn apart. I don't want to get used to a rifle that is completely opposite of how I run an AR. Anyways. This was a few years ago that I started doing this, but will I get into trouble for having a 10.5 barrel laying around if it's not attached to a lower? Not looking for legal advice, just an opinion. If I would for having the two pieces in the same house I just sell my barrel to my neighbor who doesn't have any ar's. Problem solved.
I think it's asking for trouble. Trouble that could make it very difficult or impossible to own guns at all if it goes against you. Not worth it in my opinion.
why would it be bad to have my ar broken down into parts? in cali?..
and ...would that need to be registered if its just parts?
Speaking as someone living in Australia (Queensland, specifically) and who will most likely never use an AR-15, let alone own one, I don't see how this will help anyone or do anything beneficial for California. It just comes off as something to drive people away from guns and/or get gun-enthusiasts to move out of the state.
That’s the point. They are trying to make it to painful to own one.
I use the featureless grip by resurgent arms very comfortable.
Moving to California was the worst decision of my life. Some friends talked me into moving to San Diego. Funny thing is, about a year after I moved here they left haha. Now I am broke paying $2300 a month for a house barely big enough for my wife and I to fit in. I am getting the hell out of this place! San Antonio here we come.
Can't surf in San Antonio.
Can't shoot in California. I'd rather shoot then surf.
Those are the most ridiculous Law's I've ever heard of!! The featureless grip looks retarded. Sorry, I'm Old School. Glad we moved from SoCal in 2015 and Live in South Florida now. So, are California Military and Law Enforcement "exempt" from these ridiculous NEW Law's? I am Ex Military & Law Enforcement, and can't imagine having to shoot with a rifle like that!!
Military stationed in CA is NOT exempt and current law enforcement is. unfortunately, Florida will probably be the next CA...
I just got here, and prior to coming I did my research, did Patriot Mag Release and Featureless on my rifles. Moved from a "FREE" state to this obnoxious unconstitutional state. Luckily Uncle Sam will move me back to the good coast in a few years. but for now, ill have to suffer.
No Fear all! - google "51st State, New California"
We're also tired of the treason and sedition California is committing, so we've decided to succeed, much in the same way West Virginia did. And since CA is committing so many acts of rebellion, it will be a no-brainer. Independence is already filed.
I'm really happy that your sorta prediction was wrong.
Best solution: Get the fuck out of this sick fucking police state run by communists
No Fear all! – google “51st State, New California”
We’re also tired of the treason and sedition California is committing, so we’ve decided to succeed, much in the same way West Virginia did. And since CA is committing so many acts of rebellion, it will be a no-brainer. Independence is already filed.
Filed yea... The state of Jefferson was a movement started in the 1800's... Still hasn't gone forward. Liberty is destined to die unless we somehow stop that. The world is Against America, and America is against California. Seems like the world is against us. I escaped to Ohio for 7 years. Tasted liberty.. then came back to take care of my parents... I HATE THIS SHITHOLE FASCIST BASTARD OF A STATE.
Or we could just stand up like we all had balls, and tell them what to do with their stupid, unconstitutional bs laws. But I guess pride in America and standing up for what's right died out with the Greatest Generation.
Unfortunately a force of people strong enough to overthrow everything would be needed. That won't happen because society is too intertwined with peoples' jobs. it isn't like the 1770's where people could be self sufficient still.
Unfortunately, most of the people in the People's Republic of Kalifornia are left wing anti-gunners. We wouldn't win that fight. I'm leaving the state when I retire in a few years. I'll take my guns and my money and go someplace I can enjoy them.
Would building a "featureless" rifle as you described here also be Connecticut legal?
So you give in to what they want rather than fight back Seems most have forgot what the guns were truly for.
Kept is simple and straight to the key points . Really liked the pictures and videos for us visual learners also the good reviews so we can find what we need quick and easy to not be felons :D
Great instructional videos. Glad I moved to Nevada 8 years ago!
This is NUTS.
Try living here. Cannot WAIT to get back below the Mason-Dixon Line.
Thanks, man, you saved me some time. Really sad to see what this once a great state is turning into...
You're welcome Andre! And sucks that I had to write this article in the first place...
I am not certain anyone has mentioned it but Ruger makes an AR-566 Model: 8510 that looks a lot like the Stag shown
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Just finished converting mine to featureless. Now I've got all these parts laying around that I can't even put to use. Great article by the way, short, to the point, has nice visuals, and gives a good list of options and alternatives.
So what I'm hearing here, is in CA if you use the patriot button which forces you to open the action to remove the magazine, the rest of the AR doesn't have to be featureless? Meaning you can keep the collapsible stock / pistol grip, etc. And the other way around. If you make the rifle featureless, you don't have to have a bullet button and can drop the magazine normally? If this is the case then going with the new button would be the cheapest way to go.
Correct!
If you already have a BB rifle then mag locked would be cheapest, if you're building a new rifle then cost can go either way depending on what you're looking at.
If you do go maglock there are some decent options to help with reloading such as Bear Flag Defense BF-10.
Great, reason I asked was I have ARMaglocks on mine, and didn't want to change all the features. Thanks. Now if I can find something similar for an AK that would be great, but so far it looks like you need a special insert placed in the action with a compatible magazine. But I also heard that just adding a grip wrap to a standard AK will make it compliant. Any info on that?
Another question LOL. In this article it says that (to make the AR compliant) the new laws require that to reinsert a magazine, you have to use something that makes you open the action, which the maglock does, but further down it says the rifle has to be featureless to not be registered as an AW. Does that mean having a maglock and the other features you still have to register it? That doesn't make sense since the maglock make you open the action, but featureless would allow you to stick a drum mag right in there.
To avoid registration you need to be EITHER fixed mag (thus forcing you to open the upper from the lower to release the mag) OR featureless. As long as the rifle is in one of those two configs, they do not need to be registered.
As for the drum mag, keep in mind that you're still under a 10 round limit regardless of features, registration, or anything else - UNLESS your mags are from before the ban.
There are a couple of people making a maglock type system for the AK but like you saw, they require some weird workarounds.
The evil features you need to remove to be featureless are: Pistol Grip, Flash Hider, Foregrip, and Adjustable Stock.
Most AKs have a fixed stock and no foregrips, the flash hider can (depending on the AK) just be screwed off and a thread protector screwed on. And for the grip, throw a wrap on it and you're good to go.
Have you seen the new featureless grip by resurgentarms.com. it meets all the requirements for featureless requirements but more ergonomically comfortable.
I've tracked its development over the past 8 or 9 months, it seems they have their production issues worked out and have been shipping product. Sadly, they are out of stock at this moment.
I'm building a new featureless AR soon and was planning on picking one of these grips up to test - I'll reply back here with more info once I do!
If you built a featureless rifle prior to the july 2018 deadline, does it have to be engraved and serialized?
I assume you mean a rifle built on an 80% lower? Yes, it does. All home-built guns in CA must have a serial number by 2019. Doing it before July 2018 means you can put any number you want, after July 2018 requires you send in a form to CA DoJ to get permission and a number assigned to you.