Featureless AR-15 Rifles [2019]: California Build Guide

Confused by all these new laws and what makes an AR-15 “featureless” so you might not have to register it as an assault weapon (AW)?

A featureless rifle (in California) is one that does not have any of the following:

  • pistol grip
  • thumbhole stock
  • telescoping/folding stock
  • flash hider
  • grenade or flare launcher
  • forward pistol grip

A featureless rifle allows the use of detachable magazines and lawfully owned standard-capacity magazines.

Best Featureless Grips
A Few of Our Featureless Rifles

A little confused?  We’ve got you covered.  Plus with videos of our favorite setups.

Learn exactly what makes an AR-15 “featureless,” how it allows the use of the magazine release and larger magazines, and how to build one with recommendations for appropriate grips, stocks, and muzzle devices.

Competition Rifle with BSF Barrel
My Current Competition 5.56 Rifle, Featureless

Plus if it all sounds too difficult…the best new “Bullet Buttons” that let you have all the features.  Hint…it’s the AR MagLock + Patriot Pin combo.

Disclaimer that this is not legal advice and you should double-check everything, especially since the laws surrounding this always seem to be in flux.  I’m also writing this mostly towards residents in California, but New York residents can also benefit.

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What Makes an AR-15 “Featureless”

First, let’s go over what makes an AR “featureless” before diving into the laws.

This flowchart from Calguns.net is perfect for making sure your semi-auto centerfire rifle is legal.

This works for other semi-auto centerfire rifles but I’m using the example of the AR-15 since it’s the most popular.

Please download the flowchart as well as following along with my emphasis edits (in poop brown) below:

Calguns Flowchart Brown
Calguns Flowchart Brown
  • Start: Begin here and if you bought your rifle at a legit FFL, it should pass everything with flying colors as you move down with the brown line.
  • Section A: Here is where it gets interesting for rifles…whether or not it can have a detachable magazine.  Most FFL bought new rifles take the “No” detachable magazine path to Section B.
  • Section B: You might have heard of the term “bullet button” which is just a branded name for magazine locks that require a tool (and a bullet is considered a “tool”) to remove the magazine.  When you just use your finger…you cannot release the magazine like normal.  The .gif shows some ingenuity in adding a little protrusion to the bottom of a magazine to active the bullet button.  Past 2018 you’ll need more than a simple tool…read on!
Ultimate Bullet Button Tool, Ben Sharmak
Ultimate Bullet Button Tool, Ben Sharmak
  • Section C+D: This is where “featureless” comes into play since we will not have the features dictated in CCR 11 § 5469 and Penal Code § 30515.  
    • Pistol Grip
    • Thumbhole Stock
    • Folding/Telescoping Stock
    • Grenade Launcher or Flare Launcher
    • Flash Suppressor
    • Forward Pistol Grip

Still with me?

Things You Can’t Have on a Featureless Rifle

Pistol Grip

What you see on all normal AR-15’s.  It allows you to hold it in a pistol fashion where the web between the thumb and the finger rests below the exposed trigger when firing.  Yea…I had to think about that for a minute too.

A2 Grip
A2 Pistol Grip

Thumbhole Stock

This monstrosity below is an example of a thumbhole stock where the thumb of the trigger hand can go through the stock when firing.

Thumbhole Stock, ar15.com
Thumbhole Stock, ar15.com

Folding/Telescoping Stock

The folding stock allows you to fold the stock over to the side so the overall gun is much smaller when not in use.  While the telescoping stock is very standard and more often known as a collapsible stock.

Folding Stock, gunsandtactics
Folding Stock, gunsandtactics
AR-15 Lower
AR-15 Lower with Collapsible Stock

Grenade Launcher or Flare Launcher

The big tubes underneath the standard barrel.  Not seeing a whole lot out there, so yea…

Predator Grenade Launcher
Predator Grenade Launcher

Flash Hider/Suppressor

Device attached to the front muzzle that reduces the flash from shooting.  They are mostly for preventing the user being blinded by the flash at night, rather than hiding the flash from spectators, although that happens too.

Some Muzzle Brakes Chilling
Some Muzzle Brakes Chilling

There’s a lot of muzzle devices, and the big difference is that flash suppressors have a bigger cavity at the exit end than the bullet caliber when compared to muzzle breaks or compensators.

Flash suppressors usually come in two flavors…birdcage and multi-prong.

A2 Birdcage Flash Hider
A2 Birdcage Flash Hider
Smith Vortex Flash Hider
Smith Vortex Flash Hider
Muzzle Brake Compensator
Muzzle Brake Compensator

Forward Pistol Grip

Commonly known as the vertical foregrip since they can be grasped in a pistol-like fashion.

DDM4 V1/V5 16 Inch FSB
DDM4 V1/V5 16 Inch FSB

Why Would I Want a Featureless Rifle?

Seems like you miss out on a lot of cool stuff, so why would you want a featureless AR-15?

The big reason was hidden above in Section A…the ability to not have a bullet button and use your magazine release as it was intended.

Stag Arms 9mm AR-15
Stag Arms 9mm AR-15, Featureless

And for those who have standard/high-capacity magazines, you are only allowed to use them in “featureless” builds.  Bullet-button rifles have a maximum of 10 round magazines.

However, this is set to change in California with the new Gunmageddon Laws.  Now the primary bonus of making a featureless rifle is so you do not have to register it as an assault weapon.

Those standard/high-cap magazines I talked about above…they were scheduled to become illegal in CA on July 1, 2017 but the law was blocked by a judge.

California Assault Weapon Laws (2019+)

Oprah, You're a Felon
Oprah, You’re a Felon

Again, I’m not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.  Also, this doesn’t cover all the “Gunmageddon Laws,” just the main ones that deal with AR-15’s and featureless rifles.

General

  • As of January 1, 2017, you can no longer buy/make/import the standard bullet-buttoned AR-15 as we know it since it is now an assault rifle.  The definition of a “fixed magazine” was changed from having to use a tool to something that requires disassembly of the firearm action.
  • For those of you who got one before…you have until January 1, 2018 to either register it as an assault weapon or make it featureless.  Or you can also surrender it, sell it outside of CA, etc…basically stuff you probably don’t want to do.
  • Registration is here and costs around $20.
  • If you register, there’s all sorts of fun things that come along with it…travel restrictions, inability to sell in CA, inability to lend, inability to transfer to a family member even if you die, etc.  Essentially it will die with you.
  • However, if you make a registered assault weapon (RAW) into a featureless one, you should be able to “de-register” it later.
  • More info here and here.

Featureless & Best New Bullet Buttons

  • You can avoid registering as an assault weapon if it no longer meets the requirements…aka a “featureless” build.  Find out how to do that after this law section.
  • You should also be able to keep the evil features and not register if you adhere to the new definition of “fixed magazine”…aka use one of the new bullet buttons that require disassembly of the action such as the ARMagLock and Patriot Pin.  No more a simple pin into the bullet button.
AR Maglock and Patriot Pin Combo
AR Maglock and Patriot Pin Combo

AR Pistols & 80%-ers

  • AR pistols must follow the new laws PLUS not have a threaded barrel nor handguards.  So you’ll have to pin/weld an approved muzzle device and somehow not have handguards.  Basically…you’ll have to register or use the new type of bullet button.
  • 80% builds are still legal.  But you have to stay afloat the new laws.  Any new builds cannot be made into an AW.  AB 857 requires that by Jan 1, 2019 all completed firearms have a serial number.  If you engrave prior to July 1, 2018, you do not need to notify any government entity.  But if you do it after, you’ll have to apply to the state (pay fees, get a serial number, etc).  More info here.

Ready to build or upgrade (or rather…downgrade) to one?

Let’s go through each of the features again with our suggestions of how to make them compliant.

Featureless AR-15 Rifle
Featureless AR-15 Rifle

Best Featureless Muzzle Devices

On the easier side to fix…just don’t have one and pick up a thread protector.

Or opt for a muzzle brake/compensator instead.

Tested Muzzle Brakes
Tested Muzzle Brakes

If it talks about flash hiding or suppressing in the description, just err on the safe side and don’t get it.

Here’s some of our tested favorites…

Precision Armament M4-72 Severe Duty

If you want something with the best recoil reduction and least reticle movement…look at the Precision Armament M4-72 Severe Duty.

See it in action for side blast, decibel reading, and reticle movement.

Editor's Pick
90
at Brownells

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

Miculek Brake

If you want something a little more budget but still effective, check out the Miculek Brake.

40
at Brownells

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

VG6 Gamma

Lastly, the best hybrid brake/compensator goes to the VG6 Gamma.

Best Budget Muzzle Brake
64
at Brownells

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

Check out the rest (and even more videos) in our Best AR-15 Muzzle Brakes & Compensators article.

Best Featureless Grips

The biggest aesthetic and functional change you’ll do in your quest to go featureless.

CA Featureless Rifle Grips
CA Featureless Rifle Grips

It might look odd/ugly, but I’ve found that I quickly adapted to the different grip.

Exile Machine Hammerhead Stock

The Hammerhead is what I used in most of my beginning featureless builds since it lets you have a hunting rifle grip.

Hammerhead Grip, Hand Position, Right
Hammerhead Grip, Hand Position, Right

Great for regular or precision shooting…but once you start running and gunning, the lack of having your thumb on the opposite side slows you down.

Unless you’re strictly against fin-type grips or are on a tight budget…there’s better options out there now.

11
at Amazon

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

Strike Industries MegaFin

The MegaFin adds a very nice thumbshelf for right-handed shooters that gives you a lot more control.

Strike Industries Megafin Featureless Grip
Strike Industries Megafin Featureless Grip

However, if you want easy access to the safety lever, you’ll likely need an ambidextrous safety like the Seekins used that is turned the opposite way.

Strike MegaFin, Close
Strike MegaFin, Close

Here it is in action…easy to engage and safety.

And great for running and gunning.  One of my top recommendations.

Best Featureless Grip
37
at Primary Arms

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

Resurgent Arms Grip

My current favorite featureless grip is the Resurgent Arms.

Resurgent Arms Grip
Resurgent Arms Grip

The awesome thing is that you can get your thumb around the grip which gives almost the same control as a regular pistol grip.

Resurgent Arms, Hand Position, Left
Resurgent Arms, Hand Position, Left

You can also flick the safety lever from this position but unless you have a very extended version (Resurgent is coming out with one), it’s hard to re-engage.

*Update* I’ve got the extended safety lever…and I highly recommend it.

Another thing is that the regular end plate is sharp against your thumb web.  I tried using some duct tape and it felt fine.  But Resurgent also has a beveled plate which is super comfy (but $35).

It’s the gold thing below.

Resurgent Arms Grip, Right
Resurgent Arms Grip, Right

Lastly, the length of pull is increased slightly because of the grip.  Unless you have super short fingers you should still be fine.

All in all…my shooting speed is almost the same as with a regular pistol grip.

I reached out to Resurgent and they are offering Pew Pew Tactical readers a 10% off coupon with code “PEWPEW10“.

40
at Resurgent Arms

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

What’s your take on the Resurgent Arms grip?

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See even more Featureless Grips for the AR & AK in our full roundup.

Best Featureless Stocks & Pinning Options

Many internet people say you can blind pin and epoxy your current collapsible stock so that it can no longer move, but again, I like to err on the safe side with a fixed stock.

Best AR-15 Buttstocks
Best AR-15 Buttstocks

Magpul MOE Fixed Stock

What I used to run in my featureless rifle.  Affordable, sturdy, and there’s no questioning that it is fixed.

28
at Brownells

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

A2 Buttstock

Very standard A2 buttstock for a more retro look and with storage compartments.

52
at Brownells

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

Blind Pinning and Epoxying

If you really love your current buttstock or really want to save money, you can go ahead with blind pinning and epoxying your buttstock.

All it takes is drilling through the buttstock and some of the buffer tube, putting in a roll pin, and epoxying it over.  Some people even do it on both sides as an extra measure.

Drill Through Stock and Buffer Tube
Drill Through Stock and Buffer Tube

I detail what I did for a new build here: How to Blind Pin an Adjustable Stock.

Stock Lok

The Stock Lok is something new has come out that swaps out the spring-loaded adjustment pin for something fixed.  More expensive at $35 but you don’t need to drill and pin.

Stock Lok
Stock Lok

Strike Industries Stock Stop

The newest thing out is the Stock Stop from Strike.

You cut a rubber piece so that it fits your buffer tube and only shows one hole.

Strike Stock Stop, Bottom
Strike Stock Stop, Bottom

And slip on your regular stock until it clicks in that hole.

Voila…fixed stock!

Only thing is you can’t select a custom length since there’s that stopper in the front.  Make sure the 2nd to last hole works for you.

Strike Industries Stock Stop
Strike Industries Stock Stop
9
at Primary Arms

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

Need more stocks…especially now that you can use the Stock Stop?

Check out the rest of our favorite AR-15 Buttstocks where we rate them based on weight, price, and of course…cheekweld.

Adjustable AR-15 Buttstocks
Adjustable AR-15 Buttstocks

Thumbhole Stock, Grenade/Flare Launcher, Forward Pistol Grip

These last three are easy to take care of…just don’t have them!

There’s some debate on whether or not the Magpul AFG is considered a forward pistol grip, but again…I’d just be safe and not have it.

Magpul AFG: Probably not a forward pistol grip since it’s more angeled…but why risk it.  ($33)

Magpul AFG
Magpul AFG

Best New “Bullet Buttons”

Even though this article is about featureless…I know you want to know about the best new “bullet buttons.”

Current law makes it ok if your magazine is fixed and the upper/lower receiver halves are opened up in order to release the magazine.

The best “new” bullet button I like is the AR MagLock + Patriot Pin.

AR Maglock and Patriot Pin Combo
AR Maglock and Patriot Pin Combo

Pretty easy to install (especially if you’re building) and really quick mechanism to release the rear due to the Patriot Pin.

Full review here.

And here it is in action for a tactical reload.

Regular empty mag reloads take a little longer you’ll see in the review.

55
at Patriot Pin

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

Another slick solution (but requires sending in your lower) is the Battle Arms Development MRB (magazine release block) combined with their special rear takedown pin that opens up the upper/lower halves just enough:

Conclusion

So there you have it, how to make a “featureless” AR-15 or other rifles in California/New York.

Best Featureless Grips
A Few of Our CA Featureless Rifles

Want more of our best guns and gear?  Check out our Best AR-15 Upgrades and Best AR-15 Scopes & Optics.

A Couple AR-15 Optics
A Couple AR-15 Optics

189 Leave a Reply

  • Smithski

    Jesus Christ, all that stupidity because lefties are afraid of big black scary guns. This is so ridiculous I can’t stop laughing. How ugly those rifles are after these “upgrades” (or should I say downgrades).

    1 second ago
  • Wilderness medic

    This article is incorrect. Since AR pistols have magazines outside the grip they MUST be maglocked and therefor can have threaded barrel hand guards etc...

    6 months ago
    • Ryan

      I agree, I called my local gun store and the pistol grip u can wrap your hands around is illegal. And any vertical foregrip.

      2 months ago
  • Bee

    I heard that the Stock Stop was not CA legal.

    7 months ago
    • David, PPT Editor

      There is no official determination either way - however, as Strike understands the law it should be in compliance.

      7 months ago
  • MichaelH

    Interesting article. Kinda dumb laws. I get the point of reducing concealability or mag size / increasing reload time COULD arguably impact public safety, but I'm not sure how eliminating features like pistol grips and flash suppressors make people safer. Separately, if you use Oprah as a punching bag people are going to think you, like lots of gun enthusiasts, are racist, even if you're not. While I'm not an Oprah fan it's probably a poor choice of graphic

    7 months ago
    • Mike b

      Dont I insinuate that opera is round like a punching bag fat shaming is just as bad these days.... lol

      4 months ago
    • Derek

      It would if mass shooters take the time to make sure they commit their crimes with CA compliant rifles. The whole thing is political and does not impact public safety at all.

      6 months ago
    • Bob

      Oprah IS racist, using her mug isn't racist. It simply mocks her ignorance. A billionaire black female in a racist country. Who would have thought?

      7 months ago
  • Martin G Glander

    Does anyone know of a California compliant magazine release for the Spike Glock 9mm lower? I am moving to Ca and need to get myself legal or change my weapon to featureless. Thanks in advance for any help!

    8 months ago
    • Blazeaglory

      I'm 99% sure Its considered a pistol, so is beholden to an entire different set of laws

      7 months ago
    • David, PPT Editor

      I don't think I've seen anyone offer any kind of fixed magazine option for 9mm lowers, personally, my AR-9 is featureless. Sorry!

      8 months ago
  • Jaime Gonzalez

    I was told that if I build a featureless rifle, the muzzle brake needs to be pin and welded on. Even though the barrel length is already 16inches and the over all length of the rifle is over the 30inch mark. Is that true is, or it just fear spreading.

    10 months ago
    • David, PPT Editor

      For California that is incorrect, a muzzle brake or compensator does not have to be permanently attached. I believe for either NJ or NY it does - that is where the confusion stems from. But I might be wrong on the second part.

      10 months ago
      • Jaime Gonzalez

        Ya, I'm in California so that's some good news to hear! Thanks David!!

        10 months ago
  • Spinach

    I've always heard that if my rifle is not put together, they are just parts. I do not want to be illegal, but at the same time I want my parts. I just usually throw my sights on my friends rifle when we go out plinking and just keep mine torn apart. I don't want to get used to a rifle that is completely opposite of how I run an AR. Anyways. This was a few years ago that I started doing this, but will I get into trouble for having a 10.5 barrel laying around if it's not attached to a lower? Not looking for legal advice, just an opinion. If I would for having the two pieces in the same house I just sell my barrel to my neighbor who doesn't have any ar's. Problem solved.

    10 months ago
  • .319 Magnum

    Speaking as someone living in Australia (Queensland, specifically) and who will most likely never use an AR-15, let alone own one, I don't see how this will help anyone or do anything beneficial for California. It just comes off as something to drive people away from guns and/or get gun-enthusiasts to move out of the state.

    1 year ago
    • Bill

      That’s the point. They are trying to make it to painful to own one.

      10 months ago
  • enough

    I use the featureless grip by resurgent arms very comfortable.

    1 year ago
  • Todd

    Moving to California was the worst decision of my life. Some friends talked me into moving to San Diego. Funny thing is, about a year after I moved here they left haha. Now I am broke paying $2300 a month for a house barely big enough for my wife and I to fit in. I am getting the hell out of this place! San Antonio here we come.

    1 year ago
    • MichaelH

      Can't surf in San Antonio.

      7 months ago
      • Ozzie

        Can't shoot in California. I'd rather shoot then surf.

        4 months ago
  • CARL SIMS

    Those are the most ridiculous Law's I've ever heard of!! The featureless grip looks retarded. Sorry, I'm Old School. Glad we moved from SoCal in 2015 and Live in South Florida now. So, are California Military and Law Enforcement "exempt" from these ridiculous NEW Law's? I am Ex Military & Law Enforcement, and can't imagine having to shoot with a rifle like that!!

    1 year ago
    • bob

      Military stationed in CA is NOT exempt and current law enforcement is. unfortunately, Florida will probably be the next CA...

      1 year ago
      • CaCoastie

        I just got here, and prior to coming I did my research, did Patriot Mag Release and Featureless on my rifles. Moved from a "FREE" state to this obnoxious unconstitutional state. Luckily Uncle Sam will move me back to the good coast in a few years. but for now, ill have to suffer.

        1 year ago
        • Warren Carver

          No Fear all! - google "51st State, New California" We're also tired of the treason and sedition California is committing, so we've decided to succeed, much in the same way West Virginia did. And since CA is committing so many acts of rebellion, it will be a no-brainer. Independence is already filed.

          1 year ago
  • Howie

    Best solution: Get the fuck out of this sick fucking police state run by communists

    1 year ago
    • Warren Carver

      No Fear all! – google “51st State, New California” We’re also tired of the treason and sedition California is committing, so we’ve decided to succeed, much in the same way West Virginia did. And since CA is committing so many acts of rebellion, it will be a no-brainer. Independence is already filed.

      1 year ago
      • Just a guy

        Filed yea... The state of Jefferson was a movement started in the 1800's... Still hasn't gone forward. Liberty is destined to die unless we somehow stop that. The world is Against America, and America is against California. Seems like the world is against us. I escaped to Ohio for 7 years. Tasted liberty.. then came back to take care of my parents... I HATE THIS SHITHOLE FASCIST BASTARD OF A STATE.

        8 months ago
  • #sickofitall

    Or we could just stand up like we all had balls, and tell them what to do with their stupid, unconstitutional bs laws. But I guess pride in America and standing up for what's right died out with the Greatest Generation.

    1 year ago
    • Ozzie

      Unfortunately, most of the people in the People's Republic of Kalifornia are left wing anti-gunners. We wouldn't win that fight. I'm leaving the state when I retire in a few years. I'll take my guns and my money and go someplace I can enjoy them.

      4 months ago
    • bob

      Unfortunately a force of people strong enough to overthrow everything would be needed. That won't happen because society is too intertwined with peoples' jobs. it isn't like the 1770's where people could be self sufficient still.

      1 year ago
  • Orlando e

    Would building a "featureless" rifle as you described here also be Connecticut legal?

    1 year ago
  • lucky

    So you give in to what they want rather than fight back Seems most have forgot what the guns were truly for.

    1 year ago
  • Gus Ramirez

    Kept is simple and straight to the key points . Really liked the pictures and videos for us visual learners also the good reviews so we can find what we need quick and easy to not be felons :D

    1 year ago
  • Frogger

    Great instructional videos. Glad I moved to Nevada 8 years ago!

    1 year ago
  • Gordon Wagner

    This is NUTS.

    1 year ago
    • #sickofitall

      Try living here. Cannot WAIT to get back below the Mason-Dixon Line.

      1 year ago
  • Andre

    Thanks, man, you saved me some time. Really sad to see what this once a great state is turning into...

    1 year ago
    • Eric Hung

      You're welcome Andre! And sucks that I had to write this article in the first place...

      1 year ago
  • Jeffrey A Rada

    I am not certain anyone has mentioned it but Ruger makes an AR-566 Model: 8510 that looks a lot like the Stag shown

    1 year ago
  • that guy

    evil kommies

    1 year ago
  • Kevin

    Just finished converting mine to featureless. Now I've got all these parts laying around that I can't even put to use. Great article by the way, short, to the point, has nice visuals, and gives a good list of options and alternatives.

    1 year ago
  • Steve

    So what I'm hearing here, is in CA if you use the patriot button which forces you to open the action to remove the magazine, the rest of the AR doesn't have to be featureless? Meaning you can keep the collapsible stock / pistol grip, etc. And the other way around. If you make the rifle featureless, you don't have to have a bullet button and can drop the magazine normally? If this is the case then going with the new button would be the cheapest way to go.

    1 year ago
    • David

      Correct! If you already have a BB rifle then mag locked would be cheapest, if you're building a new rifle then cost can go either way depending on what you're looking at. If you do go maglock there are some decent options to help with reloading such as Bear Flag Defense BF-10.

      1 year ago
      • Steve

        Great, reason I asked was I have ARMaglocks on mine, and didn't want to change all the features. Thanks. Now if I can find something similar for an AK that would be great, but so far it looks like you need a special insert placed in the action with a compatible magazine. But I also heard that just adding a grip wrap to a standard AK will make it compliant. Any info on that?

        1 year ago
        • David

          There are a couple of people making a maglock type system for the AK but like you saw, they require some weird workarounds. The evil features you need to remove to be featureless are: Pistol Grip, Flash Hider, Foregrip, and Adjustable Stock. Most AKs have a fixed stock and no foregrips, the flash hider can (depending on the AK) just be screwed off and a thread protector screwed on. And for the grip, throw a wrap on it and you're good to go.

          1 year ago
        • Steve

          Another question LOL. In this article it says that (to make the AR compliant) the new laws require that to reinsert a magazine, you have to use something that makes you open the action, which the maglock does, but further down it says the rifle has to be featureless to not be registered as an AW. Does that mean having a maglock and the other features you still have to register it? That doesn't make sense since the maglock make you open the action, but featureless would allow you to stick a drum mag right in there.

          1 year ago
          • David

            To avoid registration you need to be EITHER fixed mag (thus forcing you to open the upper from the lower to release the mag) OR featureless. As long as the rifle is in one of those two configs, they do not need to be registered. As for the drum mag, keep in mind that you're still under a 10 round limit regardless of features, registration, or anything else - UNLESS your mags are from before the ban.

            1 year ago
  • enough

    Have you seen the new featureless grip by resurgentarms.com. it meets all the requirements for featureless requirements but more ergonomically comfortable.

    1 year ago
    • David

      I've tracked its development over the past 8 or 9 months, it seems they have their production issues worked out and have been shipping product. Sadly, they are out of stock at this moment. I'm building a new featureless AR soon and was planning on picking one of these grips up to test - I'll reply back here with more info once I do!

      1 year ago
  • Sease357

    If you built a featureless rifle prior to the july 2018 deadline, does it have to be engraved and serialized?

    1 year ago
    • David

      I assume you mean a rifle built on an 80% lower? Yes, it does. All home-built guns in CA must have a serial number by 2019. Doing it before July 2018 means you can put any number you want, after July 2018 requires you send in a form to CA DoJ to get permission and a number assigned to you.

      1 year ago
  • BLarry

    are 22lr rifles exempt from the featureless rule?

    1 year ago
    • Jel

      .22lr rifles are rim fire and therefore exempt.

      1 year ago
  • Ricardo Cruz Jr

    Is there an ar 15 that don't require a magazine, or a 5 round magazine aviable?

    1 year ago
    • Jel

      There is a bolt action conversion. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/01/19/lantac-bolt-action-ar-15-bcg/ I also seem to remember a lower receiver made by Olympus that had a fixed magazine. You were required to top load after opening up the action by removing the rear take down pin. Can't seem to find any info on it as my google-fu is weak right now.

      1 year ago
  • P V

    Nice competition video. Looks like the LA area? I used to compete in NC and am just bringing over my AR and converting. Looking to get back into comp. Looks like you're running a large mag there, how does that work for competition? Can you use a mag larger than 10 for comps? I know you're not lawyers but I can't seem to find a competition answer anywhere

    1 year ago
    • Eric Hung

      You can use legally owned regular capacity (I consider 10 rounds low capacity) mags for competition. But don't worry, there's also 10-rounder divisions so you aren't at a terrible disadvantage.

      1 year ago
  • Jim Kirst

    Question? I have not heard anything about the use of the Fab10 lower receivers. They have a fixed 10 round magazine. I have one with an A2 pistol grip. Do I still have to change that configuration?

    1 year ago
    • Eric Hung

      If they are permanently attached and you have to open up the upper/lower receiver you should be ok. But I'd always double-check.

      1 year ago
  • thanh

    Does anyone know the law for AR pistols? how the featureless works for this?

    1 year ago
    • Eric Hung

      Not a lawyer but...as far as I know you can't featureless an ar pistol since the handguard can be construed as a barrel shroud.

      1 year ago
  • Fred

    Liberals hate America.

    1 year ago
  • NAC

    So if I read this right, and follow the chart accordingly, I can go totally featureless (which I have already) which then removes my AR from AW status. I can then, since its not a AW, remove my BB and go with a conventional mag release? Thank you for all your help and info here, as a law abiding gun owning citizen I truly appreciate it.

    1 year ago
    • Eric Hung

      As far as we know, yes...but I would still consult with a lawyer.

      1 year ago
  • Frank E. Spann

    Question: I’ve put a Patriot Pin Mag on my AR. As of now will this cover me until the end of the year or should I remove the pistol grip and collapsible stock?

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Not legal advice, I would consult with Patriot Mag...but it is meant to make it compliant into 2018 since you need to open the action to activate the mag release.

      2 years ago
  • dave

    Good writeup, thanks. The photo you show for the Miculek shows top vents.. The link supplied with the photo takes you to a DPMS Miculek brake without ports on top. Where did you get the photo with the top vents? I have the same one and trying to track origin.

    2 years ago
  • Joe Gunowner

    The author of the original article is *way* overdue for an update on this topic.

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Yup coming soon!

      2 years ago
  • John Weaver

    so Californians let themselves be disarmed by the legislature for their own safety? How is it that letting the bad actors outgun citizens and their families with: 1.) more rounds per clip 2.) faster reloading, 3.) easier to handle and safer firearms 4.) readily available ammo - no 6 month waiting period for DOJ to approve ammo purchases. Wait til it's in effect then see how long background checks for ammo will take. those legislators need to be hauled out into the public square and beaten to a pulp..

    2 years ago
    • Quig

      Has anyone in California examined the effectiveness of the current laws and made at least a token effort to project how these new draconian infringements on California citizens' constitutional rights will reduce violent crime? No, of course not. That would shine the bright light of reality on the lies perpetrated by those who want power, absolute and unchallenged. Why not look at Australia and see how effective their much-touted gun laws have been in accomplishing their purported goals? When are the majority of Californians going to stop letting a minority of the population (read as the political elites) take away any more of their Constitutional liberties?!?

      2 years ago
      • twofish

        "When are the majority of Californians going to stop letting a minority of the population (read as the political elites) take away any more of their Constitutional liberties?!?" The problem, I believe, is that the San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles, Orange County, San Diego, and the suburbs that surround these areas make up most of the population of the state and those urban areas are predominantly liberal so they support politicians like Gerry Brown, Gavin Newsom, Diane Feinstein, etc. The media plays to the crowd, so it just keeps getting worse. If there was something the rest of us could do to stop this stuff from happening we would do it. As gun owners, we completely understand how ridiculous it is to think that forcing us to hold our rifles a different way is going to reduce crime. Personally, I cannot believe somebody got paid for writing these stupid laws. At the end of the day, do they pat themselves on the back and really believe they are helping? I hope not.

        2 years ago
  • Darren

    I have a Kriss Vector.45 carbine, how to make it featureless ? ( Just the pistol grip needed to be changed )

    2 years ago
  • John

    Thank you for the writeup. Any updates on whether the J-Comp v2 is considered CA compliant?

    2 years ago
  • Joe Altieri

    Howdy I have spent countless hours trying to figure how to make my AR's featureless. The big snag for me comes from DOJ's lack of commitment/approval of components and in overcoming esthetics prejudice regarding the replacement of the pistol grip. I have made an adjustable stock, non-adjustable. I have removed a muzzle brake and replaced it with a thread protector. But when it gets to the pistol grip I am stymied. I have looked at pictures of a number of various products including "hammerhead", shark fin, the spur, the Patrick Henry trigger guard, (and a combination of spur and PH trigger guard) and the Ledesma Arms "rifle grip". I would like the DOJ to tell us which of the products will help to qualify our rifles as "featureless", then I can hold my nose and select a replacement for the evil pistol grip. Thanks for your research and help. Joe

    2 years ago
  • antman

    so as long as you install a patriot mag release you are good and can do whatever you want without registering? i wouldn't have a problem doing that at least until i get the hell out of this retarded state.

    2 years ago
  • James

    I'm just going to cut my AR-15 up and throw it away. The Government is just adding new laws one after the other so eventually it will not even be able to work. They will get their way all the time and it is pointless to try and fight it. Even letters to our representatives won't work because all politicians are cut from the same bolt of cloth. It's no use, just dump um, save money, and move forward. at least we still have hunting rifles like the 308 Remington and stuff. I know this sounds negative, but there is no winning with them and they know it.

    2 years ago
  • Greg thomas

    I live in California and have been going through this cluster f%@k for many years now to the point I've made all my guns featureless using the Thordsen FPS-15 stock on the lowers and a CMMG muzzle brake for all my uppers. I was pleasantly surprised that the Thordsen stock fits me much better than any stock I've ever tried before. It replicates the same hand hopld of a conventional stock and the check well is perfect without and padding needed. And the CMMG brake is far in away to best brake I've tried to date. So thanks Gov. Brown for making up my mind not to register my guns with you or any one.

    2 years ago
  • Dr Charly

    Thirteen years ago, when I had ten rifles, someone broke into my house and stole two assault rifles, the police had them in custody within 72 hours, however they registered all my guns, In 13 years I never had a "safety inspection" nor a surprise visit from the authorities , now I own 34 guns, four of which I built from 80% lowers, I don't see anything wrong with registering your guns without altering their original looks.

    2 years ago
    • Quig

      apparently you aren't too familiar with what has happened in other countries when they started out with "common sense" gun laws. They are like boiling a frog. We should not have to get the permission of any government to exercise our constitutional rights.

      2 years ago
  • Al

    What brand/model are the muzzle brake/compensator that you are currently using in your competition guns? Deciding for one, especially in California, can be challenging.

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      I'll update the article soon but I'm really liking my new VG6 Gamma, J-Comp 2, and Miculek brake clone.

      2 years ago
  • Matthew Cooksey

    Any news on the legality of the strike industries J-comp? I've already got one installed. I might just have to be a guinea pig.

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Hey Matthew, I'll be updating soon, but got my hands on the J-Comp 2 and VG6. The V2 is pretty close to the J-Comp V1...it just doesn't state anything about flash suppression in marketing materials.

      2 years ago
  • Curt

    Any thoughts on whether or not the AR Spur will fly in Ca. And pass the featureless pistol grip issue? I realize of course that any response is not a legal opinion. Thanks!

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Not too sure about that one since the web of your hand is still pretty high up. I'd ask forums or the manufacturer.

      2 years ago
  • kludgy One

    How about I f I just buy a Mini 14 or a Mini 30 and not worry about it all the Comifornia laws?

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Yup you can!

      2 years ago
  • Den

    Hi Eric, so if i purchase a stripped lower from a local FFL dealer, a complete upper and lower parts kit online, and build it featureless... I will not have to register it as an AW? Or do i need to buy a complete rifle from Appendix A and replace the parts to make it featureless? Sorry, i am new to the firearms world. Great write-up!

    2 years ago
    • Tyler O.

      I'm not Eric, but you could totally buy a lower and set it up as featureless. No registration required. I made similar inquiries at my gun store and the only issue that came up is that you must be 21 to buy a lower, not the 18 required for a complete rifle.

      2 years ago
  • Tyler O.

    I've been digging into a bit of info on that J-Comp, apparently a lot of people are worried that it won't pass the test of not being a flash hider since "The front ports act to minimize flash from the muzzle. (OpticsPlanet)" Any thoughts on that? I just cancelled my order for one since I don't even want to chance it.

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Hmm, thanks for bringing that to my attention. I'll take a look into it since I'm doing another build and was going to get another J-Comp.

      2 years ago
      • JD

        I can also report that the Troy Industries 5.56 Medieval Muzzle Brake has potentially (probably) disqualifying text on the rear of the packaging. If you check their website it looks fine, but on receiving the product the first line of description on the back of the card inside the blister packaging reads: "Provides dramatic flash reduction and reduced recoil...". Very unfortunate, as this is a relatively inexpensive brake. A lot of folks seem to think the Medieval brake is good to go, but honestly, who wants to take the risk?

        2 years ago
        • Eric Hung

          Good catch JD!

          2 years ago
    • Dan

      I agree. I bought one and there on the box it says "Hybrid flash hider/compensator" in super small print. I'm disappointing, as I like it and it was a good recommendation otherwise.

      2 years ago
  • Tommco

    Hi Eric, thanks for all the great info. Do you have any similar advice for AK's? Sorry in advance if there are some obvious sources that I just haven't had the time to dig for yet.

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Hey, it's about the same for muzzle devices (make sure it's for AK's), the stock is usually fixed already, so you only need to worry about the grip. I went with a kydex wrap for mine.

      2 years ago
  • Ken

    Hello Eric have a question about ar pistol if i install the AR maglock on my pistol will i still have to pin the muzzle break on the barrel.? Thanks KC.

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      AR pistols are a little weird and I don't have a great answer since they are subject to barrel length, no threaded barrels, and even no "shrouds" aka handguards. So pretty much it's impossible to go featureless. The new kind of bullet buttons will be your best bet.

      2 years ago
  • Ben Franklin

    California is madness in action. Not just the gun laws either. Everything costs 40% more then anywhere else, traffic jams 365 days a year, smog checks, damn near everything is illegal. It's a mess. I'm going featureless since i guaranty you, this registration WILL lead to confiscation - always does! That is the reason they do it in the first place. Truly the only thing to do is GTFO and don't look back.

    2 years ago
  • KM

    Eric, Thanks so much for the How-To article for the featureless build for us in Southern California. I purchased my stock AR M&P Sport II in 2016 and I'm in the process of making it featureless. - Telescopic buttstock (Swapping to FRS-15 - Finally back in stock!) - Stock Pistol grip - Stock flash hider (Swapping to a compensator or muzzle break) If the following components are removed from the rifle, are we required to register as an AW? and of the rifle is completely featureless is the bullet button required? Trying to get my head wrapped around the flowchart. I also found this video from Chris X on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18o5iUL3Tls&t=2s Thanks!

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Hey KM, not lawyer but if you remove all the "evil" features I listed in the article you are should not be required to register it as an AW and can currently take the BB off.

      2 years ago
      • KM

        Eric, Absolutely - Appreciate the reply and noted your not a lawyer :). Thanks again for putting this guide together to help make sense of all of the new regulations for 2017. Enjoy Shotshow! Cheers!

        2 years ago
        • Eric Hung

          Thanks and will do!

          2 years ago
  • Capn Nichols

    Great article and summary. Best I've read. Quick question ... is a bipod considered a "feature"?

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      It should not be a feature unless it's one of those that is marketed as a grip too.

      2 years ago
  • MrSteveParr

    Move to America.

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Yea :-(

      2 years ago
  • damon

    If you have a unserialized ar and we have a permanent mag installed, do we still need to be featureless and have it still be legal w/o registering?

    2 years ago
    • Eric Hung

      Hey Damon, I'd ask a lawyer for advice since your question has some special cases. I'll try to update the article with what comes out about 80% projects.

      2 years ago
  • Kenny

    Do you think we can still purchase stripped lower in 2017? I asked some FFL, some says yes some says no...it's chaos

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      I've heard that yes you can but you will have to build it into a featureless since there's no production of AW's.

      2 years ago
  • Gary

    If the bullet button ban begins Jan 1, 2017... And we have until Jan 1, 2018 to register as an AW... Does that mean between Jan 1, 2017 and Dec. 31, 2017 we can keep our "evil features" and with out a bullet button?

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      You'll still have to comply with previous rules AFAIK. So regular bullet button with evil features or featureless.

      2 years ago
  • Jack

    Am it correct that we have till 01/01/18 to comply or register as a AW?

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi Jack, AFAIK it will be illegal to buy or sell AW after 1/1/2017 and you have until 1/1/2018 to register or make featureless/fixed mag (that requires opening up the action instead of the regular bullet button).

      2 years ago
  • Confused Gunner

    I am confused about the deadline to register for AW. The start date for registering for AW is 1/1/17? And the deadline is 12/31/17? Does that mean that we can still use our pre-ban AR15 up to the deadline date of 12/31/16? Or we have to convert it to featureless starting 1/1/17?

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi, AFAIK it will be illegal to buy or sell AW after 1/1/2017 and you have until 1/1/2018 to register or make featureless/fixed mag (that requires opening up the action instead of the regular bullet button).

      2 years ago
  • Josh

    True. Most seem to be around 2'' or greater in length and costly. In an attempt to keep the barrel length as short as possible, its between a thread protector or the S&J micro linier comp. it's at 1.5'' and might help keep the peace at the range. $50 ish

    2 years ago
  • Josh

    I would imagine a thread protector would be a way cut down on the cost of going featureless.

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi Josh, it's true but there's so many effective brakes out there for reasonable prices. Which gives me an idea for another article...

      2 years ago
  • Inzependent

    Love the website and the great info! Would love to get your opinion on featureless muzzle devices...Would a Krinkov style "Krink" brake be considered featureless in CA since it's main function is to redirect the blast down range and not suppress the flash?

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      I'd look at the description of the device and/or double-check with the manufacturer/seller. I've heard some of the older versions (especially 4-piece designs) are categorized as flash hiders.

      2 years ago
      • John

        Hmm, I think you're missing the mark on Flash Hiders. The only flash hider that is restricted is one that has that as it's only function. If you mount a brake or compensator that, as a side benefit reduces the muzzle flash (ie. a combination unit) those are legal. As has been pointed out in several places (look at the Cal Guns chart for one) a brake or compensator has a restricted forward opening whereas a flash hider has a larger cavity opening to the front of the rifle. Large opening - bad, restricted opening - OK. I'm partial to my AFAB - functions as both a brake (~50% recoil reduction) and a compensator while at the same time outperforming an A2 flash hider in flash reduction (check out TTAG brake/compensator/flash hider comparison parts 1 & 2) - plus it just looks cool!

        2 years ago
        • Eric Hung

          Hi John, thanks for the insight. Yea...just going the more cautious side. And that AFAB looks really cool.

          2 years ago
  • gee

    ok so my question is will u be able to still buy a lower after 1.1.2017???

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      I believe it has to never been made into something with the "evil" features. You might also have to build it featureless. I would definitely double-check with your local gun store.

      2 years ago
  • Mateo Dancil

    Just wondering if you or anyone reading this signed the VETOGUNMAGEDDON.ORG petitions that were circulating in August and September?

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      I did at my local range!

      2 years ago
  • Todd Collins

    Eric, I'm having issues withave making a San Tan Tactical lower CA compliant since it has ambi bolt and mag releases. Gonna see if the AR MagLock works but now I'm thinking it won't clear the ambi bolt release. To be clear I can build the rifle as featureless (no pistol or forward grip, fixed stock, no flash suppressor (muzzle breaks are ok) and I can leave my regular (non bullet button mag release in place and have all the advantages of ambi controls? As long as it is featureless I do not have to register as an AW? Detachable mags 10 rounds or less are ok? What about 'blast mitigation devices' like the Lantac that force gasses forward instead of left/right? Thanks in advance for your answers, TC

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi Todd, I'm not familiar with that lower. For now until the end of the year it should be good to go. Featureless should negate needing to register in 2017. Not sure about those kind of devices. Do they list if they are flash hiders?

      2 years ago
  • Kiyoshi

    Hey Eric! First off, your website is awesome! Didn't know you had one. Just was looking for clarification; the magpul PRS stock, while being adjustable, is not "folding or collapsible" so it is legal, right? also, for people with m4-style carbines (pinned and welded flash hider on a barrel under 16"), the Franklin Armory DFM 10 round magazine may be the way to go without altering or swapping the barrel. it drops in from the top, making the rifle with a "fixed" magazine. buy two and it makes swapping out much quicker while still staying legal. Lastly, is shooterbowl Sunday still going down and will you bring your AR despite the potential hassle? I wanna try that pistol run.

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      The PRS stock is in the iffy territory. Haven't tried out the Franklin Armory magazine but its ounds like it could work. All of mine are featureless now so it's ok to me!

      2 years ago
  • OCGunLover

    If I change my AR to featureless, does it mean I can do a PPT at FFL? Would some FFLs refuse to PPT certain featureless rifles since there are many ways (and many interpretations) to turn an AR into "featureless"? Thanks in advance.

    2 years ago
    • ehung

      It will depend on your FFL...some are more risk adverse than others since there's some interpretation of the featureless laws.

      2 years ago
  • Morgan Hamilton

    Eric, Have you tested the BoAR Grip?

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi Morgan, I haven't since I believe it is only legal for NY and not CA.

      3 years ago
  • David

    No doubt, thousands of California AR-15 owners will be modifying to a fixed mag configuration in order to avoid registration and the inevitable confiscation that will follow. Fixed mag options create a safety issue. I'm concerned about clearing a jammed receiver with a fixed mag. Transporting a jammed rifle is not an acceptable option. Perhaps someone will design a quick release mag floor plate? or clearing assist tongs? Going featureless seems to be a safer option though replacing a pinned suppressor will necessitate a dreaded trip to an overwhelmed gunsmith. Anyway, I will install an ARMaglock and wait until I have some experience with a jam before I make the installation permanent with red thread-lock and drilled out hex head.

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      Let us know how the ARMaglock works out!

      3 years ago
  • Rick

    Getting close to the deadline. If i go featureless does it become a ghost gun, or is it registered as a long rifle? I dont understand the difference between a reciever with a serial and an unserialized 80%. 80% is unserialized, what happens if i get pulled over by a cop?

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      "Ghost gun" is just a term for homebuilt guns that come from 80% receivers. Featureless wouldn't change a serialized gun you bought from an FFL into a ghost gun since it still has the serials. Some good info here: http://www.80percentarms.com/pages/faq

      3 years ago
  • Oz

    So I've been kind of looking around the internet on this topic and by looking at the different grip options supposedly compliant. Some such as the rifle grip, hammerhead, and the such looks like you can still have your thumb over the grip which I'm not sure of that vs the kydex type were the thumb is essentially same side as trigger finger. I did read some where that it depends on how high said thumb rides in reference to the trigger. Also removing flash hider and replacing with a brake , does the brake need to be pinned? And again with all these things being done you cane remove the bullet button to standard mag release, is that correct? Also this all comes into affect in 2018 or am I wrong? California Clarification on these much appreciated

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      The brake does not need to be pinned unless you have less than a 16" barrel. For now (2016) in CA going featureless should allow you to remove your bullet button. Currently most people believe that going featureless will exempt you from the new AW registration laws in California.

      3 years ago
      • Oz

        Thank you, Here's the flow chart might clear up things. Looks like if yours are not on the appendix lists on page 2 you really need not worry if your magazine is considered non detachable meaning you're using a bullet button, radlock or similar device

        3 years ago
  • Tony

    So if I make all necessary changes, can i remove the bullet button to a regular magazine release? i.e...radlock..

    3 years ago
  • Azion

    Thanks for a Great guide!

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      You're welcome, Azion!

      3 years ago
  • California_gun_laws_suck

    What if i keep my rifle locked away? Would i still have to make it featureless or register it? I don't see how they would know unless they go house to house checking everyone's weapons.

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      That part is up to you to decide. The laws suck but I follow them so I can actually shoot them at ranges/comps/etc.

      3 years ago
  • Brian

    Eric, thanks for the information. If I were to build an AR using something like the ARMagLock (so, basically fixed mag), does this then mean that I could have BOTH a pistol grip AND a collapsible buttstock? Or would I be limited to either/or? Thanks in advance!

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      I believe if you go with a fixed mag you can have an unlimited amount of the features (that are still legal...you might not get away with a grenade launcher without a lot of permits lol).

      3 years ago
      • Kevin

        So once putting a ARMagLock on my ar15 while keeping all my evil features do I then register with the DOJ that my rifle has a ARMagLock?

        2 years ago
        • ehung

          It's one of those things that no one is really sure of. It SHOULD make it ok since it requires disassembly of the firearm action. I personally went with making all my rifles featureless.

          2 years ago
      • Brian

        Lol, agreed. Thanks for the info and take care!

        3 years ago
  • john

    Thordsen FRS-15 Stock: on there site it says California (RESTRICTED)

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      Thanks for the heads up. I downloaded the PDF and it looks like a list of states and a little blurb. Here is what they say for CA:

      Working within the guidelines set forth in a letter from the California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms, Thordsen Customs LLC (with guidance from legal counsel) has determined that the FRS-15 stock, when installed on a semiautomatic center fire rifle with NO OTHER RESTRICTED FEATURES listed in California Penal Code 30515(a)(1)(A-F), DOES NOT meet the definition of an “assault weapon” and therefore may be configured with a detachable magazine.

      3 years ago
  • doug

    hi eric, thanks for all the info for us californians. just wondering, i'm trying to follow your chart but where is appendix A, B etc..... Also i own a PCC, 45acp. it has a bullet button where I need a tool. So as long as any AW has this type of mag release that requires a tool, does the chart imply that i'm legal? and don't have to go featureless? thanks, hope you can answer. doug

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi Doug, it's on the second page of the Calguns flowchart. Click the link I have in the article since I did not take a screenshot of it.

      3 years ago
  • Mike

    Eric, really good information although I'm still a bit confused on what Californis will do next. For all 80% builds, will you have to register them even if they are featureless ? AND are they looking to ban 80% builds ? Will featureless be banned ? Will 80% lowers be banned ? Thanks.

    3 years ago
    • Pat

      Next they will go after people that register their 'Assault Weapons'. Registering the weapon gives the CA DOJ rights to enter and inspect your property any time they want to look for 'safety violations'.

      2 years ago
    • Sonya

      Ya, eventually the featureless will be banned too and then they'll know you have it.

      2 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi Mike, here's a good (non-lawyer) resource from 80% Arms.

      3 years ago
  • Buzz Bierbaum

    Thanks great write with lots of info!

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      Thanks, Buzz!

      3 years ago
  • Randy

    So if I make all the above changes to my AR and make it "featureless".....am I good with leaving the "bullet button" as is??

    3 years ago
    • Thunder

      Why keep the bullet button, as far as I can tell, going featureless means you can remove the BB altogether.

      3 years ago
    • ehung

      As far as I know, there's no rule to force you to take off the bullet button if you go featureless.

      3 years ago
      • Scott

        What if your Are 15 was pre ban but then registered it when we were required to back in 98 or99 do I have to register it again since already have to carry that piece of paper where ever i take that rifle?

        3 years ago
      • Randy

        Thanks Mike.....Peace,

        3 years ago
        • Randy

          I mean Eric.....my bad.....

          3 years ago
  • Mike

    What do you think of the armaglock alternative? It seems a lot easier thank mangling and taking apart an expensive ar 15 or 10 and takes just a few seconds to load and reload.

    3 years ago
    • Matt6114

      I have the ARMaglock and it works great until you have a jam! Huge pain to clear and you won't be able to drop the mag to help!

      2 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi Mike, I've seen some videos of it but haven't had a change to personally handle it (will update when I do). It could work but I still like the featureless route just for ease of use during competition.

      3 years ago
  • Infowars_Junky

    so with the new law coming 1/1/2017 we will still be able to have Featureless AR Rifles? Will be we need to register these AR's in Featureless configuration as AW?

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      As far as I understand, you have the choice of registering as an AW or making it into a featureless build.

      3 years ago
      • Infowars_Junky

        Most likely I will convert all my rifles to featureless. But, if I register my rifles as AW what type of mag release will I be able to have? Free State Mag Release, Bullet Button or Bullet Button Reloaded?

        3 years ago
        • ehung

          Hi, definitely double-check with a lawyer since I am not, but as far as I understand you should be able to use any release if you register as an AW. But it seems like an unintended consequence that my change.

          3 years ago
          • Marc

            Don't register... You will have to take pictures of it and won't be aloud to alter it... It will be useless at that point... Featureless is the ONLY way to go until OUR NEW President can give Komifornia a spanking...

            2 years ago
  • Daiblo

    Can a Colt AR15 and HK 91 be made featureless even though they are on the AW list?

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      That's a good question. As of now the guns named specifically on the list, the two you listed included (oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/awguide.pdf), cannot be bought in CA but I'm unsure if the recent laws would fix anything. My money is on no still.

      3 years ago
      • John Bono

        Rifles were taken off the list

        3 years ago
  • Mars Crain

    So with all the new crazy Gun laws.. is the frs stock California legal?? I just purchased a UTAS xtr 12 shotgun..and I'm so worried it won't be legal come Jan 2017.

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi Mars, it currently is and should be, but I would always ask someone that can give you a concrete answer. It might differ since yours is a shotgun as well.

      3 years ago
  • Wayne

    "All it takes is drilling through the buttstock and some of the buffer tube" Why must the buffer tube be drilled through? Can't we just make the stock non-adjustable without damaging the buffet tube?

    3 years ago
    • jay

      yes u can.... i just put a rivet in right below the adjusting lever .....and painted the rivet black with a sharpie......looks great, like it sapposed to be their....

      2 years ago
    • ehung

      Just for piece of mind. Some people just disable/take-off the lever that lets you easily adjust the stock, but I just always skew towards making it really unadjustable.

      3 years ago
  • Jason

    Thanks. This is also quite handy in New Zealand where we have a "sporting rifle" which can be owned on a basic firearms license, and a "military style semi-automatic" which like the "assault weapon" is basically a set of cosmetic features, pistol grip, collapsible/folding stock, bayonet lugs, flash suppressor. An AR-15 with the Thordsen stock, a silencer fitting instead of a flash suppressor (silencers are considered good manners here) and a magazine of no more than seven rounds is a sporting rifle, and doesn't require the extra cost endorsement. Proof positive that gun laws are made by people who know nothing about guns.

    3 years ago
    • ehung

      Hi Jason, thanks so much for your comment and insight into New Zealand firearms licenses. Wish we had your silencer laws!

      3 years ago
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