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.380 vs. 9mm: Which is Better?

Think the .380 ACP is just an inferior version of the 9mm? We take a look at the pros and cons of each caliber and choose the best for self-defense.

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If you've been around the gun community long enough, you've likely heard about the battle waging between 9mm and .45 ACP, or maybe the one between .40 S&W and .45 ACP...

40 s&w
9mm vs .45 ACP

Some people love to rant about the 9mm, while others prefer to take the classic .45 ACP head-on.

Either way, these calibers tend to get the most attention among keyboard warriors...but what about 9mms little sister, .380 ACP?

Both 9mm and .380 both have the same diameter bullet, so what sets these two apart, and when it comes to self-defense which is better?

9mm Vs. .380 ACP
9mm, left, .380 ACP, right.

Well, we're here to offer a little perspective and some data to help you out. We'll walk through the similarities and differences between 9mm and .380 ACP, then help you figure out which one is right for your defense setup.

So, keep reading!

A Little Bit on the .380

The .380 is an American-made cartridge created in 1908 by John Moses Browning.

.380 ACP Round
.380 ACP Round

It’s also referred to as the 9mm Browning, the 9x17mm, and the 9mm short, all due to the fact that it has the same diameter as the 9x19mm Parabellum.

But for easiness' sake, let's just stick with calling it .380 ACP.

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Popular Pistol Calibers

The .380 was designed as a low-recoil round that would be easy to manage but strong enough to neutralize oncoming threats.

Unfortunately, the .380 never lived up to its true potential as a service round and was overshadowed by the performance of the 9mm.

Still, it did see action among some police forces and was the caliber used by the MAC-11 submachine gun.

MAC-11
The MAC-11 may be ugly but it’ll run through an entire 32-round mag in less than two seconds.

Even though the .380 never lived up to the expectations that Browning may have hoped for, it did become a popular round for backup pistols due to its relatively small size.

And thanks to the gun’s low recoil, it's been marketed as a great self-defense cartridge for inexperienced shooters.

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Comparing the .380 to the 9mm

With the exception of the train-stopping .45 ACP, which has a long history of success in the field, most other cartridges in production have a hard time squaring off with the 9mm – and for good reason.

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9mm (115gr vs 124gr vs 147 HP)

The 9mm gives you the best of all worlds -- magazine capacity, control, and power. It’s not hard to see why it's a favorite of law enforcement worldwide, and also one of the most popular calibers time and time again.

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LCP Max with Mag

While the .380 might just look like the 9mm’s shorter cousin, in actuality, these two rounds function quite differently.

Keeping that in mind, it’s kinda unfair to place the .380 up against the 9mm. (Yes, we know did that with the title, but hear us out...)

Sig Ammo 380

Instead, a better question is “which caliber is better for you?”

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Which Is More Powerful?

When looking at power, the 9mm unanimously beats the .380 every time.

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9mm be like...

It’s a heavier cartridge that produces significantly more energy (including recoil energy).

If power is your primary focus and you’re thinking of going with a .380, you’re barking up the wrong tree.

9mm

It’s been (unfairly) stereotyped as an underpowered cartridge for almost as long as it’s been around, but ballistic tests place the 9mm lightyears beyond the .380 with regards to power.

And while it’s no match for the 9mm, shooting the right ammo can transform your .380 into a formidable concealed-carry pistol.

Hornady 90-grain XTP Jacked Hollow Points
Hornady 90-grain XTP Jacked Hollow Points are a well-rounded .380 round.

So, Why Choose .380 over 9mm?

Well, if power is your primary decision, you wouldn’t. But power isn’t what the .380 is made for.

In some ways, the low power of the .380 ACP is actually one of its strengths, depending on how you look at it.

Sinterfire .380 ACP 75 grain HP Frangibles and a Ruger LCP II. If you like .380 ACP you really should check out Sinterfire’s frangibles
Sinterfire .380 ACP 75 grain HP Frangibles and a Ruger LCP II.

The average .380 gun is designed as an ultra-lightweight, subcompact handgun.

This makes them great for use as a primary or backup concealed carry weapon.

And since the .380 cartridge doesn’t produce much recoil energy, you’re able to exercise more control over your lightweight handgun than you would with a round like the 9mm.

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The diminutive Sig Sauer P238 is a tiny carry gun.

So, what you end up getting with the .380 is a lightweight gun that’s not much different in size from pocket pistols like the .22 LR, .25 ACP, and the .32 S&W, but far more powerful.

What about Shootability?

Generally speaking, one of the biggest advantages to the 9mm is that it’s an easy-to-handle cartridge -- at least when compared to the bigger calibers out there.

Here's a 9mm Glock 19:

Indeed, the 9mm does have a lot to offer in terms of power and control, making it one of the most well-rounded handgun cartridges, in my opinion.

However, when we’re looking at shootability between the 9mm and the .380, the 9mm loses this round.

If you’re looking for a powerful caliber that’s easy to handle, the .380 delivers in every way.

Here's a Bersa Firestorm .380:

It may not have the same expansion or penetration as the 9mm, but it does have lower recoil.

In fact, if you shoot a 9mm handgun and a .380 handgun that weigh the same, the .380 will experience 94% less recoil than the 9mm.

Admittedly, that low recoil won't do you much good against someone on the other side of the parking lot. But it makes a difference if you’re stopping an armed assailant from entering your bedroom -- especially if you’re an inexperienced shooter.

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Which Is Best for Concealed Carry?

Again, that depends on the needs and expectations you have of your pistol.

Remember, the 9mm is the superior caliber for military and police because it’s powerful, easy to control, and has a maximum effective range of 50 meters (almost 55 yards).

Glock 19 Gen 5, Stock
Glock 19 Gen 5, Stock

It also has a maximum range of 1,800 meters, but good luck at hitting a target that far away unless you’re shooting legend, Jerry Miculek.

Needless to say, the .380 doesn’t outdo the 9mm on any of those strengths, with the exception of being easier to control.

But stopping threats 50-yards away isn’t what the .380 is designed for.

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Concealed Carry Guns (L to R: Gen 4. Glock G19, Smith & Wesson Shield, Sig Sauer P238)

It’s a mouse gun that’s meant as a last resort to neutralize threats at close range.

For this reason, it’s become a popular backpack/purse pistol for some shooters and a backup pistol for law enforcement.

The Verdict

I mean, can you really go wrong with a 9mm?

Personally, I think the 9mm offers an all-around great round useful in almost every type of scenario. On the other hand, the .380 is limited to close-range protection.

Federal American Eagle 9mm
Federal American Eagle 9mm

Also, for doomsday preppers, the 9mm clearly wins. You'll likely come across more 9mm ammo than any other cartridge.

But if you’ve already got a 9mm and want a lightweight, easy-to-carry pistol...the .380 makes a fine addition to your collection.

Ruger LCP II
Ruger LCP II

Remember, the .380 isn’t an ineffective round by stretch of the imagination. It just doesn’t outperform the 9mm in any way except for weight and size.

And since subcompact 9mms are a thing, there aren't too many reasons to opt for a .380 as your primary.

Conclusion

At the end of the day, part of buying a gun is finding the right fit for you.

Handgun Grip Women Sig Sauer P238
You gotta find the one that works best for you

Now that you’ve learned a little bit about the 9mm and the .380, hit the range and give both calibers a test to see which one you like best.

Did we get it right or is one clearly better than the other? Leave us your thoughts below. Looking for that perfect mouse gun for your collection? Take a look at the Best .380 Pistols.

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Brandon Harville
Brandon has spent the majority of his life hunting in the woods in Georgia and Alabama. Shotguns, rifles, pistols...he's been collecting them all for over a decade. He can tell you everything you ever wanted to know about hunting and recreational shooting. Skeet shooting and duck hunting are his all-time favorite hobbies, but he's more than ready to talk your ear off about collecting and sport shooting as well.

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  • 1
    According to an excellent article in the Buckeye Firearms Association, (An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power) actual results in shooting statistics reveal little difference in the effectiveness of most handgun calibers. They all have similar one shot stops and effectiveness for a variety of reasons. The only significant difference is when rifles or shotguns are used.

    Most important in my opinion is 1: shot placement, 2: penetration, 3: expansion, in that order. Reliability is paramount!
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    • Jacki Billings

      That's why practice and training are important! Thanks for commenting!
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      • Boxlock

        You’re wellcome sir!
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  • 9
    Great article! Thank you, definitely firms up a lot for me.

    That said, just wanted to note that the NRA article you referenced is misleading in terms of recoil. I would have commented on that article, but didn't see anywhere to do so. That article does state that 380s have 94% less recoil, so you correctly quoted that article.

    However, "94% less" would mean 6% of the recoil. Meaning if a 9mm has 10 ft-lbs of recoil, the 380 would have 0.6 ft-lbs, which is not accurate.

    Reading elsewhere online, it appears that a 380 has roughly half of the recoil of a 9mm. So, what the writer of the NRA probably read somewhere was that a 9mm has 94% more recoil than a 380. In other words, if a 380 recoils at 5 ft-lbs, a 9mm would recoil at 5 + 0.94*5 = 9.7 ft-lbs (almost twice that of a 380).

    In other words:

    "9mm has 94% more kick than a 380"

    IS NOT THE SAME AS

    "380 has 94% less kick than a 9mm"

    (I'm assuming this was the mistake made by the NRA article author, or whatever author they got their info from)

    I realize you were simply quoting an NRA article, and one would assume an NRA article should get it right.

    But I just wanted to note this, so that people do not get the wrong impression of how much less kick a 380 has than a 9mm when making their decision...

    Other than that, thanks for a very helpful article!
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    Yeah I have friends who sneer at "only" having a 380. I ignore them. For me a gun is all about home defense, and they seem to ignore that it matters much more that I hit what I'm aiming at vs how much damage I do. And believe me, you hit someone with a 380 at close range, that's no love tap; it will stop them. And thanks to much less recoil, I feel I have a much better chance with that than a 9mm, esp if I'm shooting with one hand. It's not like I can go "wait a minute Mr Criminal, give me a sec to assume the proper grip and stance..."
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    When I made the decision to start carrying again, I also decided to start practacing again. (I am over 80 years old, and I have not done any real shooting for 15 years or so.} So i got ahold of some old friends, and went out to the local range, with about a dozen pistols, from .22s through .45s. If I am going to carry, I want to be able to hit what I aim at. So, lots of practice. My son carries a beautiful S & W .45, but I soon discovered that I could not fire more than one clip thru it wthout a lot o pain in my wrists. Samer thing with amost everything else. Eveh the 9mm could only last 3 clips, without hurting.

    Then, I tried a friend's wife's Bersa 380. I put a half-box thru it! No pain! The next day I bought 2 boxs. I finally got so I could hit what L aimed at, and still no pain. So, I now carry a Bersa 380, and practice regularly..
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  • 2
    What a fantastic article! I have a S&W .45 ACP and am Apex 9mm. To all did a great job explaining the differences, magazine capacity, velocity and penatration. The 9mm target rounds don't break the bank. However, I'm now thinking about the .380 for the range only and the 9mm as my CC. The .45 is now my home defense. Thanks again for a clear description.
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    In making the decision for my wife's carry gun, she found the 380 easier to rack so it was the clear choice.
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    Everyone says the .380 caliber is smaller than the 9 mil. It's not. The 9 mil is literally a smaller diameter. 9 millimeters is 0.354 inch diameter round. .380 is 0.380 inch diameter round. 9 millimeter ÷ 25.4 millimeter/inch = .354 inches making the 9 millimeter round (if it's truly 9 millimeter) 0.034" smaller in diameter. If the .380 is not as powerful, it's because powder load/bullet weight ratio is smaller by comparison, not the diameter of the bullet.
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    • G Mayne

      Bruh .380 is not actually .380. Pleaseeee people quit making claims when you have no idea what you’re talking about. They are both officially listed as being 9mm/0.355, but to my eyes the .380 diameter looks a. Tiny bit smaller.
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    • Sam Colt

      For posterity’s sake, this is incorrect. 380 ACP and 9 mm Luger/Parabellum are both .355, and the projectiles can even be interchanged when reloading, obviously allowing for weight differences. The 9mm is indeed a much hotter load owing to the larger case and pressure as we all know, but the bore diameter is identical.
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  • 4
    I do allot of sport in the outdoors, cycling and running. My EDC is a Glock 19, my sports companion is a Glock 42 with Hornaday Crtical Defense, mag guts in each of two mags, one in the Glock 42 and a spare, giving me 15 rounds. It’s enough power and ammo for a sports outing I believe. Back home the Glock 19 comes out.
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    There could be 3 apartments within a 50 yard distance. Do to over penetration, I could probably inadvertently injure a neighbor or friend. I just want the perpetrator out of my personal space or home. A .380 is sounding much better to me. Yes, I might have to hit him with about 5 rounds but with the less recoil, this shouldn’t be a problem to stay on target.
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    Just curious, what’s the average distance from within your bedroom to your hallway or even the average distance of someone’s hallway? I keep hearing 50 yards/55 feet, I live in DC, an urban area. Which means at 50 yards you are not even a threat to me or my family at that distance. A .380 is perfect for my personal space.
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    After all is said and done; this is all about accommodating a smaller, inexperienced shooter. The 9mm is (much) more powerful than the .380 cal. The 9mm, is still an anemic round, when compared with the .357 magnum, the .45 cal., and the .40S&W. Say what you want, any data, etc., but the bare-bones facts are that a larger, more powerful round is going to stop a threatening, violent man in his tracks, faster than a smaller, less powerful round. (Go big, or stay on the porch). The 10mm round was developed in answer to the anemic 9mm and .38+P rounds used in the tragic 1986 FBI Shootout, in which 2 agents were kia, among 5 others wounded, (7 total), when the involved agents chose 9mm and .38+p rounds. The 10mm round; due to it's "recoil problems" with smaller, and female FBI Agents, was 'cut down' to the popular .40 S&W round. The .40cal Round was ultimately pushed out, (again), due to "recoil problems" with smaller and female FBI Agents. The 'new & improved' 9mm round was then ushered in, in a campaign by the FBI in an attempt to accommodate these smaller agents. Now, you have a general public who "wants their cake, .. and to eat it too". You can't have it both ways. To attempt to "be comfortable, and to be safe", in a lethal situation, is flawed logic. Tragically, NOT Reality. The underpowered .380, and 9mm, while both lethal, are being, have been foisted upon the general public. In an attempt to please the smaller, weaker agents, the FBI Bureaucrats have inadvertently led the FBI, and the general public, down a slippery slope of unbelievably ridiculous bureaucratic bungling. The FBI Agents, mostly Accountants and Lawyers need to 'man-up'. Realize that the more you "sweat and are uncomfortable in training; the less you will bleed in combat". It's past time to correct this Tom-foolery, and get back to basics and common sense. The rest can follow suit.
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