**Update** 8/17/2020
Several legal authorities have weighed in now and it seems that Freedom hasn’t come to California, yet. According to CRPA, the group that brought this lawsuit against the state of California:
“Today’s opinion, however, should not be read as immediately ending the ban on acquiring magazines over 10 rounds. While possession of these magazines remains legal under the injunction issued by the district court in 2017, it is unclear whether today’s decision lifts the district court’s 2019 order staying the injunction that would have halted the enforcement of the manufacture and acquisition ban. According to the terms of that order, it remains in effect “pending final resolution” of the Duncan appeal.”
Bottom line, since the state of California, can still appeal the decision — “final resolution” has not been met. Thus, the stay remains in place until either Judge Benitez lifts it himself or California accepts the defeat.
Many companies are still taking orders for California residents looking to buy magazines, but most of them are putting these orders on hold until the legal battle is finished.
If you’re looking to get magazines when/if the ban is lifted, you might want to place those orders now if you can.
Locking in your place in line could be the differences between getting mags or having to wait months longer for a restock!
**UPDATE** 8/14/2020
A NEW RULING HAS BEEN ISSUED!!
The 9th Court of Appeals has AFFIRMED the lower court’s ruling. This should mean that magazines of ALL sizes will be once again legal in the State of California to buy, sell, trade, manufacture, and more!
BUT — we’re waiting on that to be confirmed. The lower court’s stay is still in effect and so might be blocking this from happening for now.
There are retailers that are taking orders RIGHT NOW:
We will be updating this as we know more!!
Now retailers are double-checking with their lawyers and some have begun selling/shipping to California residents.
This is our running list!
Palmetto State Armory
One of the first to come out and stand with California is Palmetto State Armory.
They’ve been pretty on top of shipping this craze from what we’ve heard. Although a lot of the good stuff is getting snatched (like the D-60) as soon as they are stocked.
PMAG stocks look good though.
Here’s some of our favorites:
- Magpul PMAGs (30-rounder, 5.56, Gen 2)
- Glock Big Sticks (9mm, 31 rounds)
- D&H (30-rounder, 5.56, Metal)
- Magpul D-60 (60-rounder, 5.56)
Check out their full magazine selection HERE.
Rainier Arms
Woo! Another major retailer joins in with Rainier Arms announcing that they will also be shipping to CA!
Here
Brownells
As of early Monday
Current Coupons:
- VTG for $25 off $250
- VTH for $50 off $500
PMAGs for Glock and AR-15s are IN STOCK.
See the rest of their magazines here.
Primary Arms
Check out all their magazines here.
However, it looks like the most popular 5.56 options are OOS. Plenty of handgun and 7.62 mags though.
Tactical Shit
LOADS of magazine in stock, go go go!
Other Stuff to Know
Not legal advice…do your own research…
You probably won’t be able to stick those 30-rounders into a magazine-locked rifle.
It will have to be featureless.
Why?
A fixed magazine rifle that accepts more than 10 rounds is part of the AWB, CA Penal Code 30515. This was not touched in Friday’s ruling so it is still in effect.
We go over how to make your AR-15 featureless in our Complete Guide.
If you have a registered assault weapon…you should be in the clear for regular capacity magazines. Because it can’t become assault-ier.
Conclusion
It’s only begun…and we’ll keep updating/validating. If there’s any we missed please let us know in the comments below.
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Palmeto and Rainer and Brownells are not selling 16rd magazines for pistols to CA. =(
Palmetto State Armory IS NOT shipping the 30 round+ magazines at this time to California, once you order, they will hold it until the ban is actually lifted just FYI. I ordered some in August, charged me, and now holding my magazines. Attempting to get a refund at the moment, my other gun buddies were able to get theirs elsewhere. Fare warning to Californians, stay away from PSA for now.
Will primaryarms ship to ca??
I was able to place an order at primaryarms, but I don't know if it will go through or not. So I was just wondering if it will actually ship
I was literally JUST notified by them that they will not be fulfilling my order. PSA, Primary Arms, and Rainier Arms will not ship to CA. I just placed an order with Tactical Shit and they don't have any warnings or disclaimers...so we'll see. Brownells has a generic high capacity warning, but it looks like the checkout will proceed. Not sure, but it doesn't look good out there.
They should because they are all custom to meet CA legal protocol.
California has no intention of complying with this ruling. They will stymie it in court and wait for Biden to be elected then we will be right back at square one. They could care less what the ruling said.
Vote people!!!
Update: They have restocked on many items, and continue to ship to CA.
@Keith P. You rock, thanks.
Oops. Spoke too soon. eabco just cancelled my order.
Just placed an order. We'll see if it ships...
Mine was refused by all these companies.
My purchase was refused by all these companies.
I just recieved an order from Brownell less than 2 weeks ago.
Ordered 40 stripper clips,,, its probably just just the full capacity mags they won't ship. They are takin orders for them though and will ship if and when the ban is legally lifted
Brownells will NOT ship to CA
If they appeal it goes to the Supreme Court where it will be judged also as unconstitutional and it will become a federal judgement impacting the whole nation. So let them bring to the Supreme Court and let
The nation be free and freer and freer from all these violations of the 2cd amendment and let’s get America unwrapped from bad anti gun anti police players.
You realize that its your beloved police who will be enforcing that anti gun legislation we're trying to avoid here, right?
Looks like none of the vendors are shipping high capacity magazines to California, indicating "the legal transfer/possession of standard capacity magazines in California cannot happen until the case’s mandate has been issued, which has not happened yet"
Ya :( that seems to be the case for now.
I do have one order showing shipped, although I am pretty sure that status is an anomaly. We'll see - fingers (and toes) crossed!
What will it mean for those folks like you who failed to cancel in time and recieve the shipment ? Will you be prosecuted and warrants issued via subpoena of online records ?
Screw em!
You can have them in your possession
I can't find decent priced M1A mags anywhere that is taking orders atm:/
Thank you Pew Pew for using the correct terminology! So many articles even in conservative magazines are using the left's lingo, (extended, high capacity, increased capacity). We can allow ourselves to use their fanciful terms!
Just ordered $1000 worth of mags I otherwise wouldn't of bought.
1) The ruling was by a 3 judge panel from the 10 judge court. It will almost certainly be appealed and heard by the full court.
2) The panel was careful to state that their ruling does not impact other jurisdictions outside the 9th Circuit.'
3) Given the likelihood of appeal to the full court, the panel has not reversed Judge Benitez's stay on his own ruling. Meaning that functionally nothing has changed, but there is real hope.
How do you think this will affect Massachusetts magazine bans?
For now, it should not impact Massachusetts at all. This was a 9th ruling affirming a California federal court's ruling -- to my understanding, that means the impact is limited to CA only.
The only way I could see this affecting Massachusetts is if the California government tries to take it higher and it goes to the Supreme Court where (hopefully) it gets reaffirmed as unconstitutional and then made the law of the land.
Otherwise I can't see how.
If it goes the way so many of us hope, then it can be used as "precedence" for litigation in other states. If not, then it is moot until SCOTUS can be enjoined to take up a case and once and for all uphold the Constitution as intended, written, and historically recognized.
I'd like a list of companies that will still ship high capacity mags to my socialist state of NJ. Gun Clip Depot stopped.
Sorry, we don't have that info :(
Now that Cali banned sales again yesterday at 5pm.Can we use our HCMS at a public gun range?
Yes, they are grandfathered in now.
EveryGunPart.Com has Glock 9mm KCI mags in stock still!
I received my 50rd and 100rd drums today and all my other standard plus larger capacity mags are already shipping. I’m good to go. Glad I ordered immediately.
Hell, I thought this was an April Fool's prank when I first saw this.
Come on NYS!
It was March 29th when I ordered but I thought someone started a prank early...
ETS is
Brownells is now shipping standard capacity magazines to California.
Hello everyone my name is Jonathan and I just wanted to join in on this conversation just to get some updates. I work at a gun store in California. I just wanted to add to this conversation and let everyone know be very cautious about this because us being a firearm vendor we usually get updates on any changes on firearms laws when we usually get them right away. but the thing is we haven't gotten any updates on letting us know if there's been any changes from what info we have accumulated it's legal to buy extended round magazines but there has not been any confirmation on if you're able to use them or not. so I just want to let my fellow gun owners know be cautious around the subject at the moment it's a little early to tell what the actual truth is. yes I do understand that a lot of the news outlets are saying their legal again but that does not mean they're legal to use it might mean they're only legal to buy and that is something that California has done in the past. So my recommendations just be cautious do your research and have fun!
Good points, Jonathon!
How about other 10-round-mag states like NJ? I do not think this affect other states at all does it?
This has no impact outside of CA.
Sometimes, Constitutional Federal Court decisions have an effect on The Law Of The Land..... sometimes.
Not this time :(
Well NJ had to essentially the same case put in front of the third circuit recently and it was upheld. There are a score of similar cases headed to the SCOTUS and if that fails, Trenton is on the hit list.
EveryGunPart is accepting orders, we announced it yesterday on Instagram. We will be adding more inventory as soon as we can, keep checking the site.
I've had good luck with Thermold mags for the Mini i-14. Sportsman's Guide has them 3/$23.
is it good to go for californians? if you know what I mean
States cannot violate the Constitution, period. Doesn't matter which Article or Amendment we are talking about.
"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed."
I concur!
CONGRATULATIONS California; NOW, quit voting DEMOCRAT; you get 'free sheet' and you give up FREEDOM in exchange; NOT a good deal.
Would someone mind explaining why we can't stick the 30rd mags in a mag-locked rifle and why it has to be featureless?
A fixed magazine that accepts more than 10 rounds is part of the AWB, CA Penal Code 30515. This was not touched in Friday's ruling so it is still in effect.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=30515.&lawCode=PEN
Actually Palmetto and Rainier were some of the last to declare today. The first were armsunlimited, jesticearms, and rtgparts. Prepper gun supply was selling then canceled everyones order.
Prepper has not canceled orders, they sent an email letting people know that they will be shipping the orders but aren't taking new CA orders until those are fulfilled.
We at ArmsUnlimited.com were the first to announce we'd be selling magazine to California on Friday immediately after the court order was announced...
Congratulations Californians. I can't wait to see where this goes. Whether the decisions stands, and becomes the defacto law of the land, or ends up at SCOTUS, and then really becomes the law of the land (fingers crossed), this is a great step in the right direction. And my understanding is that the Judge's written decision was very thorough and scholarly, removing a lot of room for future debate on the matter.
I have always kept 2 10rd mags for the occasions that I visit CA, so at least I could have something. If all goes well, I look forward to framing them, and hanging them on the wall, to serve as a reminder to my kids and grandkids to never let this happen again.
Note...voting really does matter.... 10 years ago the ninth circuit would never have done something like this .....but Judge Lee was a Trump appointee and judge Callahan was a Bush appointee. Trump is smart as a whip. He is appointing young conservs to the bench. Both California senators opposed Judge Lee which in the past apparently he would not have been appointed but you got a love Trump he just doesn't care about protocol or past procedure
I ordered some Big Sticks from Palmetto and standard capacity g19 mags as well. It is a freaking beautiful day to be a Californian! Also got a 50rd Drum for 9mm and 12rd g26 mags as well. drum magazines.com has the drums and also robertrtg.com has mags too.
Omg... its like Christmas and my birthday rolled into one.