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Best AR-15 Rifle Twist Rate: Does It Really Matter?

1:9, 1:8, or a 1:7?

When it comes to AR-15 barrels…you may be noticing different rifle twists in their specs.

Does it really matter that much? 

Will the wrong weight bullet for your twist rate make it fly off into the sunset?

Ken Collection of AR-15s
Author’s Collection of AR-15s

It does matter, but I’m here to make your decision easy and help you understand what it all means.

Table of Contents


Bullet Weight Does Not Dictate Barrel Twist

The first thing that needs to be understood is that bullet weight does not directly have anything to do with what rifle twist you should be using in your AR15 barrel chambered in 5.56 NATO or .223 Wylde.

Now before some people start pounding their table, and grabbing pitchforks, let me explain.

Bullet length is what ultimately dictates your barrel rifling twist. If you do a quick google image search, you will find a few different charts or graphs that specifically show bullet weight and which rifle twist you “need”.

Ar-15 Rifling Twist Rate
Ar-15 Rifling Twist Rate

While it is a general rule of thumb with weight, in reality, the longer a bullet is, the heavier it becomes.

With newer types of bullets on the market and lead-free designs, some bullets made of copper and zinc are very light but require extra length to achieve the same weight compared to a lead core projectile.

So, the longer the bullet you shoot, generally speaking, the faster the rifling twist needs to be to properly stabilize the bullet in flight. With great stability comes great accuracy. But what does the barrel twist mean?

A Cliff Notes History Lesson

In the early years of the AR15’s development, the rifling twist that was adopted was a 1:14 rifle twist.

The easiest way to explain what that means is that the rifling makes a complete twist 1 time every 14″. Most loads shot through these barrels were a very short, lightweight bullet in the 40-55 grain category.

You can read a more complete history of the M16, but for now, let’s fast forward to the present.

The early M16A1 utilized a rifle twist rate of 1:12 to stabilize the 55 grain M193.
The early M16A1 utilized a rifle twist rate of 1:12 to stabilize the 55 grain M193.

After the adoption of the M16A2, the military started using a 1:7 rifle twist, which was faster. The rifling made a complete revolution within 7″ now instead of 14.” We are talking twice as fast.

The military also adopted a longer, heavier projectile with the SS109 steel core projectiles loaded in the M855 cartridge.

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The current example of an M4 carbine with a twist rate of 1:7 to stabilize the 62 grain M855.
The current example of an M4 carbine with a twist rate of 1:7 to stabilize the 62 grain M855.

Capitalism at Its Finest

So why are there multiple rifle twists on the civilian market with the 1:9, 1:8, and the 1:7 as stated before?

Short answer: Capitalism.

Taste Of Freedom

If you are a red-blooded American, you enjoy the perks of capitalism.

The one drawback of capitalism though is that the market breeds more choices and more decisions. A lot of barrel manufacturers sell all of the top three rifle twists in their barrels, and it can be a little daunting when you are trying to figure out which one to get.

We covered the fact that you need to properly stabilize a bullet, and we have covered a quick history of different rifle twists. Stick with me here, because I am going to make this a very easy decision for you.

A Lot of Bad Info

Out in the unnatural world of the interwebs, you can run into a lot of bad information regarding practically anything. Rifle twist and bullet choice are no different.

When it comes to slower rifle twist, i.e. 1:14, 1:12, 1:9, you really shouldn’t be shooting bullet weights over 65 grains or the equivalent length for a 65-grain bullet. It won’t damage your rifle, but you will have very poor accuracy.

Are bad twist rates why Stormtroopers can't hit anything?
Are bad twist rates why Stormtroopers can’t hit anything?

It is absolutely true that heavier, longer bullets in the 69-85 grain flavors like faster rifle twists of 1:8, or 1:7. When someone tells you, “if you want to shoot some operator level Mk262 77 grain OTM ammo, you need a 1:7 twist”, believe that they have your best interest at heart.

But what about an all-purpose twist you may ask?

Maybe you are just like me, and you want a barrel twist that can excel with the heavier 77 grain or 85-grain loads, BUT at the same time you want to get out and smoke some woodchucks or prairie dogs, and you would like a 40-grain bullet to shoot accurately?

Can you “over-stabilize” a lighter bullet with too fast of a rifling twist?

Ammo for days! A sampling of the different loads shot for the experiment
Ammo for days! A sampling of the different loads shot for the experiment

Shoot, Switch Ammo, Repeat

I decided to run through a little experiment with multiple loads of .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO. Ten different loads to be exact. And to make this even more scientific, I did it with two different rifles that both have a 1:7 rifle twist.

The first rifle that I tested is a home-rolled rifle that utilizes a Radical Barrels, LLC 20″ 416R stainless barrel. Rick Hoffmeyer of Radical Barrels, LLC made it for me, and it’s a fantastic barrel.

The optic on this rifle is an ACME Machine 6-24x50mm FFP TR-MOA. For the price, it is hard to beat for a first-focal-plane optic.  

Author’s two rifles used for the accuracy test of a 1:7 rifle twist
Author’s two rifles used for the accuracy test of a 1:7 rifle twist

The second rifle is a factory Bushmaster Minimalist that Remington had me use on a hog hunt down in Texas at the Spike Box Ranch. (If you ever get offered a chance to go there, don’t think about it. DO IT.) The only thing I added to this rifle was an ACME Machine 1-8x28mm FFP low-powered variable optic.

Glass clarity on this scope is impressive, to say the least. Both rifles used scope mounts from Green Blob Outdoors, and for the price, are exceptionally solid scope mounts that lock down tight. 

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From the lightest grain bullet to heaviest shot was:

Moment of Truth

With ten different loads, all varying from the lightest/shortest to the heaviest/longest projectile that will fit inside the mag well of an AR15, I went about firing 3 round groups with each load at 100 yards to test how well each bullet would do.

I fully understand that some purists may be wringing their hands in the air because I did not do 5 shot groups. I get it. When I really test accuracy for a specific load, I fire 5-10 round groups to really see its potential.

The reality of the situation is that I have kids to feed, and a wife that will literally stab me to death in my sleep if I drain my bank account for ammo. She showed me the knife…

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While this isn’t a comprehensive accuracy test for each load, this test shows a good representation of the accuracy potential for each load out of a 1:7 rifle twist barrel.

As you can see from the included photos, there was absolutely no loss of accuracy from an “over-stabilized” lighter/shorter bullet.

Both rifles tend to shoot roughly the same point of impact, varying across the whole spectrum of bullet lengths and weights at 100 yards.

Some conventional “wisdom” would dictate that my accuracy should have suffered greatly with the shorter/lighter bullets with a faster 1:7 rifle twist or worst case scenario tumble through the air and keyhole the target. This just isn’t the case.

Within the normal ranges that most shooters fire their rifles, bullet length and twist should not be a concern if you have a faster 1:7 rifle twist.

Targets for the 10 different loads tested out of a 20” Radical Barrel
Targets for the 10 different loads tested out of a 20” Radical Barrel

What should be a concern though, is feeding your rifle quality ammunition, and making sure your barrel is of good quality if you are striving for accuracy. Ultimately, that is the deciding factor of accuracy when using a 1:7 rifle twist.

Targets for the 10 different loads tested out of a 16” Bushmaster barrel
Targets for the 10 different loads tested out of a 16” Bushmaster barrel

Decisions, decisions…

So its time to pay the piper, and make a decision on the rifling twist that will best suit your needs as a shooter. My vote is a 1:7, hands down. With a 1:7 rifle twist, shooting quality ammo, you can go as light as you would like with commercially available ammunition.

A case could be made that “over-stabilization” can bring about issues at extended ranges, but why would you honestly shoot a 40-grain projectile past 300 yards? If you are actually trying for accuracy at extended ranges of 300-700 yards, a 69-85 grain bullet is much better suited for the task at hand.

For up-close shooting drills, or within 300 yards, bulk 55 grain M193 will do just fine as well out of a quality barrel when you are on a budget.

Best 5.56 XM193 55 gr
at Palmetto State Armory

Prices accurate at time of writing

Prices accurate at time of writing

Obviously, your mileage may vary, but generally speaking, if a load shoots like a dumpster fire, more than likely, your barrel just doesn’t like that specific mixture of powder weight and bullet style.

In my opinion, it just makes sense to stick with a 1:7 rifle twist! And now that you know how twist rates affect you, you’ll want to know what the Best AR-15 Ammo: Home Defense & Range is for you and your rifle.

What twist rate is your barrel in? What is your favorite ammo? Let us know in the comments!

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  • Commenter Avatar

    I once had a Colt HBAR 1:7 twist. Iwas handloading 69g HPBT for High Power matches. One load velocity was high enough that the centrifugal force disintegrated the bullets shortly after they exited the barrel! Backed that load down a bit and it made really tight groups

    September 16, 2021 5:43 pm
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    Was building a rifle and decided to go with a 1:9 Ballistic Advantage 16 inch 5.56. All of my ammo is 55 to 62 grain, not sure how often I would get my hands on anything much longer/heavier. With the price of ammo these days and availability of not just barrels but ammo as well, I thought it was a safe bet. Great article with tons of information.

    January 10, 2021 8:34 am
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    Two weeks ago I bought the Colt, no longer called the LE 6920, but is now the CR 6920. Has the 1:7 twist rate and I shoot both the factory 55gr and 65gr ammo with 3/4" groups from 100 yards. Will be reloading soon with the 55gr FMJ Boat Tail to try them out, and then will be casting my .225 lead bullets if Lee ever gets back on production for the 2 or 6 cavity molds

    November 18, 2020 9:54 pm
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    I have a DPMS, with 1:9 twist. I don’t reload for it, so us factory ammo. Norma Tac 223 55 gr will consistently shot .6 inch groups at 100 yards. Unfortunately, they stopped making it! Damn!

    August 1, 2020 5:45 pm
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    Richard Reynolds

    I am looking at buying a PWS MK111 MOD2 PISTOL in 223Wylde rifled in a 1:8 twist rate. Can someone tell me why it has a 1:8 versus a 1:7 based on everything I have been reading the last several days about twist rates??? From all the hours of reading I have done, clearly 1:7 seems like the correct twist rate for this rifle. But now I am confused and don't know if I should make the purchase. Please help a friend...

    May 24, 2020 3:42 pm
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      Dan Fontaine

      I'm waiting for my 11.85 PWS pistol as we speak. Perhaps the rifling PWS chose is because of the availability of ammo for that twist rate. I see much more lighter grain ammo then the 80gr plus ammo.

      August 8, 2020 6:58 pm
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    Ron F.

    One thing that's obvious here is that if you switch ammo you want to know where it's going to go. The 45 gr Winchesters had good group size from both rifles but way different POI! Don't know what you were sighted in with, both liked 50 gr Federal for POI and group, which some would say are too light for that twist. I have an old Mauser 98 with a 30/06 barrel on it, at 100 yards I get good groups with 150 and 180, just a foot of difference in the impact point, not good to switch ammo on that one.

    February 28, 2020 10:14 am
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    Travis gregory

    I totally agree with what your saying. I believe it's more find what your barrel likes and groups well. I have a Ruger 556 mpr 1 in 8 twist 18 inch barrel 5R rifling. It groups high and left at 100 yds with fed American eagle 55 grain and groups between 1 1/2 and 2 moa from a Caldwell steady rest . But poi is center bullseye with Hornady frontier 55 fmj m193 style ammo groups about 1 to 1 1/2 moa. Groups ok maybe 1 1/2 with imi 77grain but loves magtech 77 gr groups magtech almost same poi as Hornady 55. Magtech grouped from .69 moa to 1 moa according to range buddy app. It really loves buffalo bore 77 gr sub moa. But not so much buffalo bore 69 gr. Which I can't afford 1.35 per round anyway . So you just have to try different ammo weight name brands etc..

    February 12, 2020 5:00 am
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    Richard Robins

    ok tons of food for thought, around my place my enemy list is, mice, rats, racoons, possums, coyotes, and any other thing that gets my chicken eggs, my 1999 1/10 mini 14 has for years and still is flawless, but most of the people i shoot with have all went AR-15's, and to shoot for a day you must go heavy barrel , my new toy was paid for several months ago and still back ordered, to late for the short version, i've went with a left handed stag 24 inch barrel 1/8 twist, so unless i have misunderstood, i should be good 62 thru 77, plus the satisfaction of shutting up the mouthy at 600 to 700 yards,

    July 12, 2019 11:06 pm
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    Great article Marine, I got a 1/9 in my Ruger SR556 and a 1/8 in my Aero Precision. Use only 62-69 grainers in both. The 1/8 is a sub MOA all day long while the 1/9 is MOA+. Shoot PPU and Gold Medal Match 69 gr the most. Both loads are .223 Rem and the 62 gr are M855 Green tipped 5.56x45mm. The 1/8 using the GMM is a 500-700 yard shooter while the 1/9 can only reliably reach 300+ yards. Contacting Ruger for a 1/7 for the SR556. It’s a top shelf piston gun and why it came with the 1/9, I’ll never know. Also, I’ve heard stories of 35-40 gr bullets from a 1/7 rotating to disentigration. Sounds like a fable as I’ve never witnessed it. I can’t picture a projectile literally coming apart due to over stabilization. Anything’s possible, I guess. Semper Fi. Thanks

    April 14, 2019 10:00 pm
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    LOVE the article. There is one big mistake in the description of the aurhor. One a Marine always a Marine. There is no prior service associated with this branch of our military. Semper fidelis
    Ooh rah!

    April 13, 2019 9:20 pm
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    I read through this article pretty quick. Did I miss or did you not mention the length of the barrel is a major determining factor along with twist rate?
    The first M16's had 20+ inch barrels.
    Shorter barrels and longer bullets was the reason for faster twist rates.

    September 23, 2018 4:19 pm
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      Travis gregory

      Actually barrel length only affects velocity which will affect poi down range it shouldn't affect what twist rate other the getting higher velocity from a shorter barrel for terminal performance at a longer range I do believe the 1 in 7 twist came about in the military to better stabilize the longer 62 gr tracer rounds

      February 12, 2020 5:06 am
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    Very good read, I take it from the graph at the top a 1-8 is more or less the "Jack of all" seeing it will work well with most ammo. The one think I did see in the photo's is that the point of impact changes with each load. Find the one you tube likes and stick with it.

    September 21, 2018 8:09 am
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      Ken Whitmore

      I was actually expecting a larger point of impact change from each type of bullet, but there was a definite change. And that is to be expected. But accuracy wise, most of the loads were more than reasonable in accuracy in my opinion. And a 1:8 is a solid choice, but I still prefer the 1:7.

      September 23, 2018 5:31 pm
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    Good article, very informative

    September 21, 2018 1:41 am
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      Ken Whitmore

      Thank you very much Richard!

      September 23, 2018 5:29 pm
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    Thank you for this article, Ken. I am about to buy my first AR. I have taken my pick and there was only one concern that I had regarding the soon-to-be-mine rifle: the 1:7 twist in a 16,5 inch barrel that comes with it. Obviously I was afraid that the standard 55grain bullets (or lighter) would not do their job, but after reading this I feel relief:-) I'm going for shopping:-) Greetings from Poland to you and the whole PPT team!

    September 21, 2018 12:43 am
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      Ken Whitmore

      Thank you for reading!

      September 23, 2018 5:33 pm
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    How about a 24” barrel with a 1:8 twist for AR15? I hope you can add this to your next article.

    September 20, 2018 9:26 pm
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      David L

      Barrel length doesn't have an impact on twist rate selection, a 16" barrel and a 24" barrel will like the same twist rate for the same bullets. Barrel length will impact velocity, to a point.

      September 21, 2018 9:58 am
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    Too bad you weren't able to test barrels in 1:8 and 1:9...sounds like the content for a follow-up article.

    September 20, 2018 8:48 pm
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      Eric Hung

      For sure!

      September 21, 2018 11:51 am
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      Absolutely. We now have the 1:7 perspective, but how about those of us with 1:8 and 1:9 barrels? I think we need another, expanded test. BTW, good read. Thanks.

      April 8, 2019 9:08 am
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    You need to mention the barrel “burn out” factor for the 1:7 if you intend to shoot the rifle a lot. I don’t know what the number of rounds might be but it WILL happen faster and you’ll start getting bigger groups. For that reason 1:8 is the ideal twist rate IMO.

    September 20, 2018 5:18 pm
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      This is really not a factor to consider imo. Just get the best 1:7 or 1:8 you can afford, the 1:9 twist of the MP Sport 2 is fine for many AR owners as well. if it is a well built 1:8 it will be more accurate than you'll ever be. And if it is a good 1:7, unless you shoot ten of thousands rds per year you will not have to worry about replacing it for a long time.

      September 20, 2018 6:42 pm
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    Ray Adams

    Very informative, well written. Enjoyed reading it.

    September 20, 2018 4:52 pm
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      Ken Whitmore

      Thank you Ray!

      September 23, 2018 5:34 pm
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    paul clark

    FWIW, I have a Ruger M77 .243 built in 1975. It has a 24" barrel and 1 in 9 twist. This is kind of an apples to oranges comparison with ARs tested above.

    Very accurate rifle when firing 100 grain lead. But being in California, I can only hunt with non-lead ammunition. I tested both factory Barnes 80 grain and factory Hornady 80 grain. Both plastic tip. The rifle went from 1.5 - 2.0 MOA to 2.5 - 3.5 MOA using both the Barnes and Hornady copper 80 grain.

    A friend hand-loaded some Barnes 85 grain hollow point copper and some Nossler 90 grain copper with plastic tip. The rifle shot the Barnes 85 grain very well (comparable to the 100 grain lead.) But the Nossler did the same as the 80 grain, shooting big groups.

    So I'm not sure if I'm fighting weight versus twist, or if I just have a rifle that doesn't like plastic-tipped bullets. Or maybe I'm not that good a shot.

    Either way, I'm probably going to have to relegate this rifle to coyotes because a .243 is on the brink of being too small for deer to begin with. We're in open country where 200 yds is probably the average distance to target. My nephew thinks my answer is a .25-06 or a .270.

    September 20, 2018 1:05 pm
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      David L

      That sucks the groups have opened so much, but it's a good time to get a new rifle! I would highly recommend a Tikka T3x in .270. That is my go-to deer rifle and I have to say I am completely in love with it. There is also some really good CA legal hunting loads for it.

      September 20, 2018 1:14 pm
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      Paul, I shoot a Browning A-bolt in .270 for California deer and boar. It has never let me down. I think the 270 would be a good next rifle for your deer needs. Happy hunting.

      April 8, 2019 9:12 am
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    So my budget friendly DPMS, came with a 1:9 twist barrel. Being new the AR and not knowing much yet. What do I need to keep in mind when buying ammo?

    September 20, 2018 9:38 am
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      David L

      1:9 is going to like lighter ammo, anything from 35gr to 62gr will stabilize well and give you the best groups. However, anything heavier than that is going to start to suffer. How much that actually matters to you depends on what you want to use your rifle for. If this is for plinking, well the cheapest ammo by far is almost always 55gr so you're good to go!

      But if you want to try to hunt game larger than a coyote with it or take it to some long-range precision shooting, you're going to see groups open up or rounds keyhole if you try to use heavy ammo for it.

      September 20, 2018 1:17 pm