Want to consistently hit targets at 1000 yards plus?
You’re going to need a capable rifle, match ammo,…and then some decent glass.
We’ll start with hands-on covering 9 popular long range scopes. As I test out more scopes I’ll keep adding to this article.
They’ll be view-through images, tracking tests, a lot of subjective stuff, and short videos covering every scope.
By the end you’ll have a great idea of the best long range scope for your budget and purpose.
Summary of Our Top Picks
BUDGET PICKVortex Optics 4-24x50 Strike Eagle
Great entry point option if you don't want to spend too much. Downside is there is some distortion at higher magnifications.
EDITOR'S PICKVortex Optics Viper PST Gen II
From glass clarity to ease of mounting to the crisp clicks of the knobs, this scope gets top score and is our top pick for long range shooting.
ALSO DECENTGood clarity and feels quality, but falls short on eye relief and eye box, and track testing.
RUNNER UPLeupold Mark 5HD Rifle Scope, 5-25x56mm
Glass clarity is great at all magnifications. Has all the bells and whistles such as an integrated throw lever and CCH reticle.
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How Much Should I Spend on a Rifle Scope?
Get ready for some firearm sayings…
The old rule of thumb was spend as much on your scope as your rifle.
Oof.
There’s so many factors like your rifle quality and intended purpose…plus scope quality has risen while prices have dropped.
I’d would instead update the advice to buy the best scope you can afford.
If in doubt…I always skew more towards a buy once, cry once mentality since crappy glass is not fun to shoot through…and you can always remount your nice scope onto a better future rifle.
But I have to warn you…these scopes I’m about to show you are a pretty penny since they are from some of the most reputable scope manufacturers.
Basic Scope Terms
I’ll be using some technical terms so here’s a basic rundown of 8 terms:
1. Eye Relief
The distance from the scope to your eye where you can see the full picture.
You want it far enough(I’d say minimum is 3.5 inches) so if you’re shooting magnums you don’t bash your eye.
You can roughly see how much eye relief each scope has later on by how far I mount each one.
2. Eye Box
The spot behind the scope where you can see everything at all magnifications.
This relates to eye relief but I use this term as how “spot on” you have to be to see everything. Some scopes are more forgiving than others.
3. Parallax
Scopes are glass lenses at the end of the day…and they can only show a clear image at one set distance.
The parallax knob (usually on the left side) lets you focus for the set distance.
4. Windage & Elevation
Those knobs you see people crank?
The top is for elevation (up/down) while the right side is for windage (left/right).
5. MOA vs Mil
Two different units of reticle and adjustment knob setup.
For the most part I like Mil better since it’s what I’m used to…and what my buddies use so it’s easier for us to spot each other.
If you’re just starting out…it’s ok to go with MOA (I did).
Just be sure that the units of the knobs and the reticle match up.
6. Tracking Test
When you use those knobs…it moves the reticle inside the scope to compensate.
A tracking test is shooting at the center of a target but only using the elevation/windage knobs to hit four corners.
7. First Focal Plane and Second Focal Plane
This relates to the reticle…or the crosshairs of the scope.
A second focal plane (SFP) reticle means that the reticle stays the same regardless of magnification.
However, this means at different magnifications the hashmarks on your scope will mean different distances.
A first focal plane (FFP) reticle changes with magnification…
But the hashmarks will means the same distance at any magnification.
FFP scopes are typically more expensive…but I like these for longer range shooting since you can make adjustments to your scope windage/elevation knobs at any magnification.
And it’s easier to communicate with a spotter.
Want to go more in-depth in FFP vs SFP? Check out our guide to first focal plane and second focal plane scopes.
8. Long Range Scope
I’m kind of making this up…but I’m considering a long range scope to have magnification of around 5x-25x.
That number sometimes afterwards like 5-25x50 is the objective lens diameter (lens closest to the target). Bigger number means the scope lets in more light.
This is subjective but I’ve found most people like this range for longer range shooting and better target identification.
I’m also including some lower ranges like 4-16x for those who prefer that instead.
Now…let’s get on to our best long range rifle scopes!
1. Vortex Strike Eagle 4-24×50
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My most affordable pick is the Strike Eagle 4-24x.
Vortex’s Strike Eagle line has some of the best bang-for-the-buck optics…like their 1-6x which I used for years in rifle competitions (Best 1-6x Scopes).
Plus there’s the famous Vortex warranty which covers it for a lifetime…and is fully transferable.
Now onto the scope…
Glass Clarity & Reticle
Now…it’s pretty hard to get a good picture of the glass and reticle through a camera. It’s almost always the case that real life is better than my pictures.
And tons of what I’m going to say is subjective.
But the Strike Eagle has decent glass for the price.
Here I am aiming at a 600 yard full-sized IPSC torso target.
At 24x magnification.
It’s a second focal plane (SFP) and the hash marks on the EBR-4 reticle are at a good thickness to be useful at both 4x…and 24x.
However I don’t like how the hash marks start at 4 MOA from the center. This makes it a little harder to make adjustments on the knobs when you’re off by less than 4 MOA.
There’s some slight distortion at the sides but it only becomes apparent at max magnification.
A little like the Strike Eagle 1-6x which starts to not look great at 6x.
Eye Relief & Eye Box
Eye relief is at a standard 3.5 inches so you’re ok unless you’re shooting the most magnum of rounds.
Eye box was ok too…but you’re going to have to be a little more meticulous on getting to it when you’re fully magnified.
Elevation & Windage Knobs
Mine was a tester model from Vortex…but wow was the elevation hard to turn!
I had to put on gloves to fully turn then when zeroing since they came in very far off for my setup.
The feel of the knobs?
A little sticky combined with the hardness. Plus they were a little smaller than I personally like.
Parallax & Magnification
Stiff too…but not like the elevation.
It’s next to the illumination knob so it’s a little hard to turn.
I also prefer numbers or another type of visual indicator for distance…but the Strike Eagle starts off with 20 and then some differently spaced hash marks until infinite.
Magnification ring was nice and smooth but also on the heavier side…you’re not going to be switching magnifications quickly.
Fit & Feel
Overall fit and feel is good. It’s still a Vortex after all.
Here’s a quick video of me going over the scope:
Mounting
I went with 30mm Warne Extended Mount which were easy to install and held zero even when I was taking the scope on and off a couple times.
Tracking Test
How did it go?
It was one of my first tests so I made sure to reconfirm zero…that’s why there’s two holes in the center.
This was done at 100 yards with my DTA SRS which is at least a half-MOA rifle (will shoot under 1/2 an inch at 100 yards).
Overall very good…all the shots are within the red squares.
Other Features
Comes with an illuminated reticle…but it goes from 0-11 without OFF positions next to each number.
It works.
Keep in mind that illuminated reticles are not daylight bright…you use them during dusk or dawn.
Summary
Great entry point long range scope with decent glass…despite some side distortion at higher magnifications, stiff knobs, and not my personal favorite reticle.
2. Vortex Viper PST II 5-25×50
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Glass Clarity & Reticle
The Viper PST II is definitely clearer than the Strike Eagle.
It’s like when I moved up from the Strike Eagle 1-6x to the PST II 1-6x for my current competition rifle.
Let’s start with 5x magnification of its EBR-2C reticle…
It’s a little thin so you might lose it depending on your target and background.
But since it is first focal plane (FFP)…at 25x the reticle gets grows.
The reticle is Vortex’s EBR-2C and it’s a little busy for me.
But I totally get that it’s for holdovers, ranging, and windage corrections. I’m not there yet in my long range shooting skills so it might very well be the best thing ever.
Eye Relief & Eye Box
Eye relief is listed at 3.4 inches but feels better maybe since the glass is more premium.
Eyebox is also more forgiving compared to the Strike Eagle.
Elevation & Windage Knobs
Now we’re talking!
I’m a snob for nice knobs.
And the PST II has got them…crisp clicks with the perfect amount of resistance…and audible too.
There’s zero stop (so you can’t dial it under sight-in zero) and some fiber optic for a more visual confirmation.
Parallax & Magnification
Finally…the PST II has numbers for parallax. They matched up nicely too with the ranges I shot. Also smooth to adjust.
Magnification was also easy to adjust with a nice quality feel.
Fit & Feel
Finish is identical to the Strike Eagle but the PST II is a little longer…plus with all the nicer amenities missing on the Strike Eagle.
Take a look at the nice tactile windage/elevation adjustments.
Here’s a quick video:
Mounting
I went with a Midwest Industries 30mm Quick Disconnect Mount which might be my favorite so far.
Easy to install and super easy to take on/off…with good zeroing.
My PST II came with Vortex Cantilever Mounts…but it didn’t fit my DTA rails although were fine on my mil-spec AR-15 receivers.
Tracking Test
I lost track of stuff here…
So you can see where I goofed with only going halfway to the right direction.
It’s a decent test although I would have liked to see the top two segments be inside the red.
Other Features
Comes with illuminated reticle AND with off buttons next to each level.
Summary
The PST II is what I would have wanted to fix up in the Strike Eagle…and Vortex has done it.
It’s what I used the most at a long range event.
To hit 1000 and 1250 yards.
Of course it’s at more of a premium.
But if you’re ready to seriously go after 1000+ shots you can’t do wrong with the Viper.
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3. Leupold VX3i LRP 8.5-25×50
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Boom! Now we’re onto another well known company in the scope game…Leupold with their LRP 8.5-25x.
Glass Clarity & Reticle
Clarity is good…
Though at higher magnifications it was hard to get a well-lit picture.
Reticle is second focal plane but very usable at all magnifications.
Eye Relief & Eye Box
I’m really bummed to say it but I didn’t like it as much as even the Strike Eagle (at half the price) in terms of eye relief and eye box.
Eye relief was quite good with 5.3 in at low magnifications and 3.7 at high. You can see how much more forward it is on my rail.
It was hard to get a well-lit picture since the eye box was not as forgiving.
Especially at high magnification I found my eyes getting fatigued during the zeroing and tracking test.
Elevation & Windage Knobs
The clicks are pretty large in terms of travel distance…you’re going to need to turn a lot more for each mil of adjustment.
But they felt nice in squishy but good kind of way. Audible but not too loud either.
Windage (left to right) is capped on the right side.
I personally don’t like that since it makes it harder to adjust on the fly…but it protects your zero if you’re moving around and most of the time you’re probably holding for wind anyways.
Parallax & Magnification
The parallax knob is a series of different sized dots ending with an infinite sign. I like numbers better but I’m glad at least there’s a visual confirmation of roughly where you are (instead of just hash marks)
The magnification ring has an integrated throw lever which makes it very easy to change magnifications.
Fit & Feel
Overall it still looks and feels quality and is pretty light for its stats.
Mounting
I used a Leupold cantilever single piece mount which was easy to install but I wish there was a different knob on the base so I could more easily use my torque wrench.
Tracking Test
This one wasn’t the best one even after taking out that messup at the top left square.
Summary
Not my favorite at the price point. I would say get the Strike Eagle or up it a little to get the PST II or some of the other ones down the list.
Gave me some eye fatigue due to the eye box despite pretty good eye relief.
4. Leupold Mark 5HD 5-25×56
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Redemption! I really like Leupold’s Mark 5HD scope.
But then again…I might just like nice things. This is one of Leupold’s newest creations and comes in over $2000.
Glass Clarity & Reticle
Great glass clarity at all magnifications. I got the version with the CCH reticle but there’s plenty of choices.
Here it is at 5x…I like how the three skinny triangles bring your eyes toward the center. The reticle is a little thin at 5x but if you’re using this…you’re probably zoomed in at least a little.
Here it is at 25x magnification.
It’s a lot of stuff that hunters and military will use for wind and moving target holds. Plus the CCH reticle is optimized at 12-16x magnification for night vision and thermal attachments.
More than I need for my purposes!
Eye Relief & Eye Box
Listed at 3.6 inch for 25x and 3.8 inch for 5x…so it’s pretty standard. You can see it’s actually a little closer to my eyes when mounted than other scopes.
Eye box is forgiving and a joy to look through when coupled with the great glass and 56mm objective lens that lets in a lot of light compared to the 50mm’s from before.
Elevation & Windage Knobs
There’s a nice locking button that protrudes out for zero stop. That mechanism also disappears after one full turn…and then a metal pin on top comes out after 2 full turns.
This is a scope that’s made for low light use when you have to use tactile indicators for zero.
Turning the turret knobs is soft/easy and there’s a good audible click.
Windage is covered which is ok since it’s coupled with the CCH reticle that helps a lot with holdovers.
The indicator for windage is not centered…but instead more at the top. It does make it easier to see but is different from almost all other scopes…so it takes some getting used to.
Parallax & Magnification
Parallax was very close to the actual distances and I like the numbered graduations.
And it comes with an integrated throw lever that makes it easy to transition the entire zoom spectrum.
Fit & Feel
Very quality and actually lighter than I thought for all the features and the bigger tube/objective lens.
Mounting
I used the very high 34mm rings from Leupold which worked better on my DTA SRS. However one set of the rings had a very sticky screw that needed a little more oomph to manipulate.
I still like going with single piece mounts since I take my scopes on and off a lot and they hold zeros better.
Tracking Test
Tracking was dead on even though the zero shifted a little from taking the rings on and off.
Summary
Overall super clear glass and extra features built into the great windage/elevation knobs.
You might choose a more “normal” reticle like their TMR since the CCH is built for movers and windage holds.
Lives up to the Leupold name.
5. Burris XTR II 5-25×50
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The Burris XTR II is a pretty good deal for what you get coming in around $1000.
Glass Clarity & Reticle
This bad boy comes with very decent glass and one of my favorite reticles…the SCR Mil which is an enhanced “normal” reticle.
Check it out at 25x which is very usable and has good graduations for both windage and elevation holds.
While still being useful at 5x, especially with the 3 thicker lines drawing your eyes into the center.
Eye Relief & Eye Box
Eye relief is listed at a good 4.24 and 3.5 inches although the eye box did not feel very forgiving.
Elevation & Windage Knobs
The turrets/knobs were a little stiffer than I would have liked…but were plenty tactile.
And very personal knock…but I don’t like the harder-to-read-than-needed font for the numbers. And the inclusion of +10 numbers on elevation above the regular numbers makes it very busy.
Parallax & Magnification
Parallax is easy to adjust and has numbers.
Plus illumination goes from 1 through 11 with each one next to an off.
Fit & Feel
Overall very nicely built.
Check out the turrets in action:
Mounting
I used the Burris PEPR mount which is great for the money but is heavy. However it does include Picatinny rails for offset red dots.
Tracking Test
Tracking was ok and somehow I was shooting not that great.
Summary
A good option if you’re trying to stay under $1000 with good glass and can live with the slightly less than ideal eye box and stiff/busy turrets.
6. Steiner PX4i 4-16×56
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Let’s get some German glass up in here with the Steiner PX4i.
I love their 1-4x scope and their 4-16x is one of the nicest pieces of glass I’ve had the pleasure to looking through.
Glass Clarity & Reticle
Since it’s less magnification, a smaller ratio (4-16x vs 5-25x), 56mm objective lens…AND it’s Steiner…the glass is super clear and bright.
Coupled with their SCR reticle which was developed for precision use…you’ll be ready for any long range task.
Here it is at 16x magnification. This is definitely one of those cases where the picture does not do the actual optic justice.
And at 4x. Thing but usable especially with the draw-in sides.
Eye Relief & Eye Box
Eye relief is a generous 4 inch and eye box is very forgiving.
Elevation & Windage Knobs
Great feeling turrets…stiffer in a good way and more tactile than others. Can definitely be used at night.
Plus that white circle turns green when you pass one full rotation.
Windage is exposed and is slightly easier to turn but same great quality feeling.
Parallax & Magnification
Parallax starts at 50 and uses a volume-like control to denote distance. Makes sense and I can probably get used to it as opposed to numbers.
Magnification ring feels quality and decently easy to turn with about 2 large cranks to reach min and max.
Fit & Feel
Looks and feels great. It’s decently short with a thicker tube (34mm) and larger objective lens (56mm).
Mounting
The Steiner mount is kick-ass!
Super quality feeling and comes with a built-in bubble level.
Tracking Test
Pretty consistent here although I would have liked all of them to be on the left edge like the zero-ing shots.
Summary
If you’re looking for a super quality feeling and looking optic that’s battle-tested…you can’t go wrong with this Steiner.
Plus if you’re worried about mirage the 4-16x is perfect.
7. EOTech Vudu 5-25×56
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EOTech’s foray into long distance gives us the Vudu 5-25x.
We love our EOTech Holographic Sights and this super short scope is perfect if you’re looking to rock night vision or thermal devices on your rifle.
Glass Clarity & Reticle
You’re probably giving something up by going so short…check it out below 4th from the left.
But so far I can’t tell because the glass is great.
It uses a pretty standard MRAD reticle.
That’s great at both 5 and 25x.
Eye Relief & Eye Box
Eye relief is listed at 3.6 inches so you’re not bashing your eye with magnums.
And eye box wasn’t a problem for me to get a nice sight picture at any magnification.
Elevation & Windage Knobs
A nice but also kind of annoying feature is the lock feature on the elevation turret.
You’ve got to remember to pull the turret up in order to turn it…and there’s not much of an indicator when it’s on or off.
However turns are nice and solid with an audible quality click. Windage is capped.
Parallax & Magnification
Parallax has numbers which I appreciate and dead-on with my 100 and 600 yard known distances.
Magnification is super easy to turn…but it’s the entire rear of the scope so if you have attached scope caps…it’s not going to be fun. Might be why it comes with clear bungee covers.
Fit & Feel
Feels super quality in its compact form.
Here’s everything in action:
Mounting
Has a 34mm tube and I used my go-to Aero Precision Lightweight mounts to keep everything together.
Tracking Test
Pretty good results here and I’m glad I’m shooting a little better than the previous!
Summary
The go-to if you want something super short and compact. Either just because or if you need to attach some serious electronics to the end of it.
8. Primary Arms 6-30×56
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Wait…PA is on the list?
Well turns out they don’t just make very bang-for-the-buck scopes (Best 1-6x Scopes), but also have entered the premium area with their Japanese glass-ed PLx 6-30x.
Glass Clarity & Reticle
Glass is very clear and bright with its 56mm objective lens.
However…I’m not in love with its DEKA Mil reticle.
It’s very usable at 6x.
But then becomes kind of big at 30x.
If you’re aiming at torso sized targets it’s fine but anything smaller might be hard with those giant futurist hash marks. The chevron center also takes some getting used to.
*Update*: Looks like other people like me have been heard…there’s no more DEKA reticle.
Much bigger fan of the Athena version.
Eye Relief & Eye Box
Eye relief is 3.3 inch to 4 inch so it’s pretty normal.
I found the eye box to be pretty forgiving too even at the max 30 magnification.
Elevation & Windage Knobs
Very nice big knob with quality subdued-sound clicks.
Windage turrets are slightly stiffer but have the same feel quality.
Parallax & Magnification
Parallax is a little hidden with the illumination knobs (yes, they have an off next to each setting) but has numbers that are graduated nicely. Also on the dot with my known distances of 100 and 600 yards.
Magnification ring has a smaller integrated fin that helps a lot with adjustment.
Fit & Feel
Good heft and quality finish. PA is really stepping up their game.
Mounting
Again I went with an Aero Precision Lightweight mount but if you purchase from PA you’ll usually get a free mount too.
Tracking Test
Pretty good!
Summary
If you want some quality Japanese glass on a scope that could probably cost 2x what it does now…try the PLx out.
It has Primary Arms’ lifetime warranty like all their other stuff.
9. Schmidt & Bender PMII 5-25×56
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Ooh…the big boy S&B PMII is here.
Almost universally known as the best of the best…it’s used by some of the top police and military units (hence the PM) in the world.
It’s also around $3000.
Glass Clarity & Reticle
Subjectively the best to me and my buddies who rock them. Closest would be Steiner and US Optics.
There’s also tons of reticles to choose from…I just happen to have the H2CMR which is close to a basic Mil with circles that make it easy to count how much to hold/correct.
The first focal plane (FFP) reticle is thin but usable at 5x.
But shines at 25x.
Normally it’s pretty hard to get a well-lit picture at max magnification…but it was definitely easier with the PMII.
Also no side distortion!
Eye Relief & Eye Box
Eye relief is average with 3.5 inches but eye box is pretty forgiving even at 25x. That also helps in getting a nice picture.
Elevation & Windage Knobs
I’ve cranked on these since 2012 and they are the same since the day I got them…crisp with the perfect amount of resistance. Also down to .1 mrad per click for refined.
Also the white open rectangles at the top of the elevation ring change to orange after one full rotation. Oh…and of course zero stop too.
Windage is exposed and has the same feeling as elevation.
Parallax & Magnification
The giant parallax knob is super smooth and uninhibited by an illumination lever since there’s very few times where it’s actually useful. Also dead on for my known distances.
Magnification ring is smooth and easy to use. Plus there’s a nice little “sharks-fin” attachment you can get for a better throw.
Fit & Feel
Tons of use and I’m only starting to see some scuff marks at the edges of the turrets. If it’s good enough for USMC sniper teams…it’s good enough for me.
Mounting
I use a Larue OBR mount which has kept within .5 MOA over countless on and off across multiple rifles. This setup is my go-to for AR-15 accuracy tests so it’s been…around.
Tracking Test
Pretty good…all within the red boxes. Although I must admit I’m SO DONE with tracking tests.
Summary
If you want my personal best of the best…here it is. Hands-down.
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What’s your take on the PMII if price were no object?
Honorable Mentions
This is only a slice of what’s out there…and I intend to keep testing and updating!
Here’s some of my other favorites I’ve tried but don’t have in hand for a more in-dpeth review:
Vortex Razor HD Gen II 4.5-27×56 FFP
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Nightforce ATACR 5-25×56
Nightforce is another manufacturer known for high-quality glass…and the ATACR is its premier line. I have and love their NXS line but mine is only 2.5-10x. I really want to try their 5-25x.
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U.S. Optics B-25 5-25x
The U.S. Optics B-25 has a simple, sleek aesthetic, and that simplicity extends to its controls.
Plus it’s one of the few scopes to rival Schmidt & Bender in glass quality.
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Leupold Mark 8 3.5-25×56 M5B2 Illuminated Front Focal
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Conclusion
To recap…
My recommended budget optic for those of you entering the long range game is the Strike Eagle 4-24x.
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If you want to step it up a little…get the Viper PST II 5-25x.
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If you want to up your game a little more with Leupold…
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Want super clear German glass and not need the full 5-25x magnification?
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Need to go short and add in some night vision or thermal…without losing much in performance?
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How about some Japanese glass from the most worth-it optics manufacturer?
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Or…simply want the best of the best?
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That does it for me for now. Let me know what other scopes I’ve missed so I can try to get them for Round 2!
If yIf you’re looking for something strictly AR-15…our Best AR-15 Optics covers everything imaginable. Or if you’re into hunting, scout scopes, prisms or more…check out our overall Best Rifle Scopes article.
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Please check out the Vortex 5-25x56 Strike Eagle next time around
Interesting on how the Vortex marketing machine has tainted the review objectivity of Pew Pew Tactical... There are a few scopes missing from your list and should be reviewed (and added to the list). Delta Optical HD Stryker 4.5-30x36 FFP and 5-50x56 FFP (LRD-1T Reticle) can hang and match the features, glass and capabilities of all the Vortex offerings (and beat some of them hands-down), as well as the others listed in the top ten (with a better price point). There's the Meopta Optika6 5-30x56 RD FFP, which can also hang and match with the top ten listed. And not to be missed Athlon Optics, with its Cronus, Ares and Midas line up that should also be on that list. It's sad when marketing money has such biased influence over actual real reviews and comparisons. I hope this list is updated appropriately soon with more the world's scopes (and their in-depth reviews) that are better or as good as Vortex.
It appears to me to be a Vortex bias. The research appears to be an opinion only, probably to sell Vortex Scopes. It seems very unlikely that Vortex could be that superior to Leupold, Zeiss, Schmidt and Bender or Swarovski, that have been the best scopes for decades. I have several brands of scopes and have shot with a variety of other scopes and IMHO it is hard to beat Leupold.
Zeiss V4 6x24x50?
Well you missed 4 of my Favorites.. TRACT TORIC 4.5-30x56 FFP, Delta Stryker HD 4.5-30x56 FFP. and Valdada 5.8-40x56 Crusader and Delta Stryker 5-50x56 SFP.. and some dont cost as much as several of the ones you mention that I had are are not near as good as the Tract Toric and Delta Sytryker HD.
And you could also include VALDADA, March and Kahles. Ive owned all of these except a NightForce.
KAHLES K624I
Long range scopes. Round two,
BURRIS Eliminator and a Sig scope and rangefinder combos.
How easily are they to operate in the field?
I enjoyed your article....check out the Valdada scopes which may even beat Schmidt & Bender.
I own the Valdada Crusader 40mm 5.8-40x56 and it sure beats the S&B.
What about this brand called Horus
On my .338 Lapua I use a nightforce atacr 5-25x56 f1 with tremor 3 reticle. With a scope Level by Accuracy 1st (can't say enough great stuff about the military sniper school Todd runs) and an angle degree indicator. Scope Mount is a LaRue Tactical LT845 QD that allows my SilencerCo SWR Radius Three Laser Rangefinder to be mounted above the scope (allowing me to acquire distance to target while staying on scope). Always worked well for me to 1760 and longer in every EXTREAME environment you can imagine.
Not a sniper school, been to both, one is a gentleman's course one is not.
so out of all you have been to which did you the most good at sniper/long range shooting?
Its hard to beat the Accuracy 1st Anti-Cant scope Level with Ceramic Ball for sure..I love mine. I just own 2 and they are much better than the water Bubble Level rigs.
If you can’t see the target you can’t hit it
Don't tell that to the boys with the howitzers! They'll call you....
I will not buy a Leupold based on how they handled a warranty for me in the past. It was a lower cost scope for my sons first gun and based on it being lower cost they would not replace it, only repair it and after the 3rd trip back I threw it in the trash can. I'm sure they make some good products but based on how that situation was handled, I will NEVER know.
Oh man. I've got a lower cost Leupold that could never hold zero from day one and hope to NOT repeat your experience. Maybe they just aren't aren't as good as everyone thinks.
I would love to see a review of SWFA scopes. If you’re talking best bang for the buck, they should be on the list.
Second that.
9 best long range rifle scopes? Where's Tangent Theta? Minox? Kahles? ZCO? Or if you're talking hunting... Zeiss? Swaro?
The only list leupold, vortex and Burris should be on are budget scope lists.
We have a very large update to this article coming soon!
Agree would have to say Zeiss and Swarovski and Nightforce all some of the top notch scopes for long term lasting and quality but think Steiner makes some of best military rifle scopes and very tough with extreme good glass
My friend has a 6.5 CM, A10, 24" HBAR to use for intermediate ranges? I know, but it's what he wanted. Anyway, would a Primary Arms 1-6x24 SFP Gen III Illuminated ACSS work? It's listed for a .308 and I'm not certain how that would translate to a 6.5 CM. He wants it for sub 500yd. shooting.
1-6 imho might be a bit lite for 500yds. depends on glass quality. i use a bugbuster 3-9x32 ($80) on my ar, and 9 power is really pushing it at 500yds. all depends on the quality of the glass. i have a 6-24 SFP that cost $139 i use on my Savage 10 in .308 out to 1000yds. and i've used a schmidt & bender ($3200) 5-25 on a .300 winmag from 1000 yds out to 1600 yds. NO comparison between them. the SB at 12 power all the way to 1600. 1000 yds with the chinese scope at 24 power, the SB is miles upon miles clearer, but also 23 times the cost. Clarity of glass, amount of elevation avail are better than magnification. but for 500 yds, almost anything will get you there. 6.5 cm is still supersonic. if the glass is really, really good you won't use the magnification so much. which gives you a wider field of view and that's always good. the 6.5 shoots flatter, has longer range, and has better BC (ballistic coefficient) than the .308.
Thank you for the article it was very helpful. I was wondering if you had anything thoughts on the Vortex Diamondback 6-24x50mm and its capability for long range.
Never assume that your readers will be familiar with abbreviations. Always spell them the first time you use them in an article, then identify the term under its acronym.
First time viewer, enjoyed the discussion and your approach. My compliments on a job well done. Been shooting (competition target as a youngster, hunting as an elder) since 1948. Looking forward to much more. Thanks for your efforts.
If I may,Id like to mention anothrer scope I have..Its my "GO TO SCOPE" .Its SWFA 3-15x42 SS.
I grab this 223 Wylde AR15 & SWFA Super Sniper scope 1st when there is a problem..I bought the scope used at a pawn shop for $550.00..when I first got into long range shooting.At the time it was the most expensive scope I'd ever purchased..It is as reliable as Gold.
Ive got a few Im proud of you might check out.. The Athlon Cronus BTR 4.5-29x56 and the Valdada TX Raider are my best so far...And for a lower price thats really good glass is fairly new kid on the block..its the Arken EP4 6-24x50 and the Primary Arms GOLD GLX 6-24x50.. I especially like the turrets on the GLX Primary Arms. You did a great review.I enjoyed it.Thanks
The Ares BTR & ETR are both great scopes also. The BTR to 6-700 and ETR past 1000.
Check out a scope called the Valdada
Any thoughts on the golden eagle by Vortex?
I hear a lot today about what people think the best optics are. The problem is that marketing of the big manufacturing companies seems to drive these opinions so you only really hear about the big 6 or 7 manufacturers. During the time I was in the Army I worked in the ophthalmology clinic (eye clinic) and OR. Most of the optical equipment was, and still is, Zeiss - I figure there must be a good reason for this. So after I buy a rifle, I decide on what optic I want, save up for a while, and get what I believe is the best optic. What do you think?
I fully agree. I worked for thirty years in OR and all the best optics we had were Zeiss or Leica, and for good reason. For my driven hunts and long distance target shooting, went for Leica scopes(the local Zeiss dealer unfortunately is anti gun). Yes, I paid top money but all three scopes I have from Leica are simply superb, especially in low light conditions.
Simon your right. Ive got a Zeiss 3-9 ...I purchased it in 1986 and its still as clear as ever.They are a top optic still.
For the next round, how about the Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24X50?
I haven't used the 6-24x yet but I have used the lower magnification version a LOT. Very happy with it, for the price it does a great job in every area.
I agree. Put one on my Savage 12FV in 6.5CM.
Very impressive. Clear. Powerful. Smooth.
Very impressive for the price!
Great value.
Brad M,
I have the Vortex Diamondback FFP 6-24 and for a $400. scope its hard to beat. .Its better than a bunch that cost $800 to $1,000. I have it on a 224 Valkyrie shot 1000 yards.
Have you tried the
ATN 4.5X25 site II
Battery sucker but nice from my use
Or
Athlon Cronus BTB 4.5X29 56mm scope?
I personally love this scope and I paired mine wit a unimount from Spluh.
Hold zero very well and I swap out with my ATN since the ATN has the mount built in.
What are your thoughts?
We're testing an Athlon Cronus right now! Like it a LOT so far, we'll have that review soon...ish.
Have you a review of the Leatherman Hi-Lux ART 6X24X50 scope? I find the option interesting.
I've never heard of it before now, looking at their website... it does look very interesting. I have tech questions that concern me, but if we get the chance to try one out we will!
David,PPT Editor...I have the Athlon Cronus BTR and I love it..
Bounce down to the Ares BTR 4.5-27x50 and the Ares ETR 4.5-30x56. Both are great scopes and punch well about their price point.
I'd like to see a Nikko Stirling from Legacy Sports included in the next round.
I'm looking very hard at their Howa 1500 26" HBR 6.5 CM, in an MDT Oryx chassis, which I believe they'll package with a Nikko Stirling Diamond FFP 4x16 for $1100.
Since Uncle Sam doesn't foot the bill, Nightforce and Schmidt and Bender aren't options for me...
We're currently reviewing the Howa 1500 Mini-Action in an MDT Oryx Chassis with the Nikko Stirling Diamond FFP 6-24x scope!
The action and chassis are good to go, but the scope won't end up on this list. Nikko Stirling is barely decent, the features are nice, the glass is okay, the turrets and reticle are fine - but it has very little in terms of durability while also coming with a disappointing warranty. In the face of other brands like Vortex and Athlon that are the same price range, offer a more durable scope, better glass, better reticles, and lifetime unlimited warranties - I have to recommend them instead.
Because bigger is not better, magnification is overrated
Should update this list with PA's new offerings.
What are your thoughts on the Sig Sauer BDX line of scopes and rangefinders. So far with the proper use of the App that goes along with the other two parts it's great to see the hold points illuminate and have rounds on target on the first engagement of a cold bore shot.
We have a complete hands-on review of the Sig BDX! It is very cool tech, but it's a bit niche. For hunting, I would say it really shines and can be outstanding, but for precision long range it falls a little short.
Have you checked out any of the new Zeiss V series scopes?
Not yet but I hope to have some Zeiss stuff in the update!
I'd like to second the mention of Athlon Optics scopes. I've been seeing good user reviews but your article provides much more meaningful information than just a text review. If you get the chance when it comes time to do the follow-on for this, I'd be grateful to hear what you've got to say about them. They're mostly closer to entry-level as price goes, but that's probably the audience that most needs quality advice. (For example, the Argos 8-34x56 appears to be slightly cheaper than any of the scopes you've mentioned here while apparently maybe offering better magnification and light than the Strike Eagle)
Anyway, the detail you offer in this article is really great, so thank you for taking the time to include through-scope images, groups, and impressions from mount to shoot. As someone just getting started in long-range shooting, it's nice to get experienced advice on what's out there.
We're working on getting some Athlon scopes in hand for our update, we've heard very good things about them so we're looking forward to giving them a shot!
John I have an Athlon Cronus BTR 4.5-29x56 IR APRS MRAD on my Remington 700 PCR 6.5 Creedmoor and it is a very nice scope.Starting to really make a name.The Valdada TX Raider is the most expensive scope I own and looking through them both side by side its hard to tell one from the other..And the price difference is quite a bit.
Hi John I just purchased an Athlon Argos BTR Gen II 8-34x56 MIL MRAD scope. I love it Extremely clear optics and packed with features normally seen only on Night Force. I have a tight budget so not only is this a great choice for me but I mounted it on the Midwest Industries 20MOA 1 piece 30mm mount. I'll find out soon enough if this will work for 1000+ yards. Don't think it will be a problem
I am interested in a high end shoot out! USO, Nightforce, Schmidt, Tangent Theta, Kahles, Minox, Valdada, ect.! Please make it happen!!!
Spending the last week in Denver, I was very disappointed that I was only able to get my hands on two of these scopes, & they weren't in the same store. I would love to compare high end scopes, side by side but find it extremely difficult to find places that carry them!!
Are you kidding me? There are about ten scopes that top that list! USO, March, IOR and Valdada Recon G2 which is probably the best and the best buy having Schott glass inside of it. Its amazing how somebody does a little reading and thinks they know something about good when they have no clue!
Thanks Ken, I'll check those out for the eventual update.
Thank I for all the insight. It's all so much to learn at once.
Eric; your article has to be one of or more than likely the best informative article I have ever read,. Thank you so much for your time and effort excellent job. Sometime in the near future I would appreciate if you would do a comparison article of scopes. This time possibly compare different models of the Athlon vs Osprey scopes. I have the Athlon helos 8x34x56mm cost 565 dollars. I don't have a lot of experience in LRS. The scope sits a top a Savage model 10 tactical. Before I ever fired the gun I installed a Witt muzzle brake on the 6.5 Creedmoor. I have had both shoulders replaced along with 5 other joints but whose counting. I took my 204 Savage model 12 factory and the 6.5 to the range. I shot 10 rounds at 100 yds. from the 204 five to dial it in . The next 5 32 grain Hornady Varmint touched together in a .441 center to center group not bad for a 70 yr old. I then placed the 6.5 in a cradle not knowing what too expect I leaned into it fired an to my surprise minimal recoil. I removed it from the cradle then set it on bags. After 8 rounds to dial it in.. I then shot a .837 in. group with Hornady Match ELD 140 gr. 6.5 Creedmoor. The recoil was so slight I could have shot a 100 rounds. I am looking forward to visiting my other club which has a 300 yd. range that you can drive to the 300 yd target. Thank you again for the article fantastic. If you get a chance take a look at the 8x34x56mm Athlon Helos . If you could please let me know what you think. Again Thank you Rick Shoop
Where does SWFA-SS (e.g. SWFA SS 3-15x42) fit in?
Re: the Leupold Mark 5HD - it has a 35mm tube (I own one), but you said you used a 34mm mount? Uh oh…typo?
Besides that, I like the article because you simplify a complex subject and inject some humor in there. Especially appreciated the eyebox comparo, as that is a quality that does not come across in specs. As a prairie dog shooter who stares through that glass pipe all day, eyebox is really important to me.
I would add the FFP Hensoldt’s to the test, the $7k ZF 3.5-26x56 and $3k ZF 4-16x56 (only because it’s within S&B price range). I hear they have the absolute best eyebox’s out there.
FWIW, that TiborasaurusRex fellow on YouTube mentions he has it on good authority that the top end Primary Arms, Vortex Razor, and NF scopes all come from the same factory in Japan. The majority of the price differential comes down to quality control, warranty, and slight glass differences according to him. If you look at the specs, they sure look similar.
Very Impressive article. everyone should need to know the impotent fact before the buying a rifle scope. You wrote the awesome impotent fact in this article.
Thanks for sharing
“Impotent!"
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
what's your thoughts on LVPO's (maybe future content?) scopes like a 1-8x ? Scopes like the NX8 and Accupower 1-8 are insanely accurate in short and medium distances. In longer distances you won't be achieving tight groups but you'll hit steel/paper without issue.
Big fan of LVPO optics, it just depends on what you want to do with your weapon. Take a look at our 3 Best 1-6x Scopes article!
You missed one of the better deals on the market. The Nikon Black X1000 series. The 24 - 50 is MIL or MOA. FFP and Illuminated for $800. Currently on sale at Bass Pro for $650. A very good scope. I own two.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Why not higher power scopes. Like a March Optics 10 to 60 power. Granted you don't need that much for man size target but why not basket ball size targets.
Ultra high magnification optics start to work against the shooter. Mirage becomes more of an issue, field of view gets restricted (important for seeing vapor trails), reacquiring a target after each shot can become nearly impossible, and the biggest issue is elevation adjustment - ultra long range shooting requires a huge amount of scope adjustment, even when using a 40 MOA scope base the adjustment required is rarely available on something like a 60x scope. 25 and 30x are generally the very upper limits of what long range shooters use. Many never go past 18x - even for 1-mile steel shooting.
Mirage being an issue? Are you mag dumping at 3000 yards? I highly, highly doubt heat dissipation will be an issue if long range shooting is your game.
Not mirage due to heat from the barrel, but mirage coming off the ground is very much a real issue and doesn't even require a large temperature difference between the air and ground to occur, especially when using magnified optics.
It is also important to be able to see the mirage to read wind conditions between you and the target, using too high of a magnification prevents the field of view necessary to being able to see enough of the area to see all of the differences between shooter and target.
Here is a great video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKM-RQg9OPc
Fair. 99% of shooters don’t need magnification above 30x for their application, high power becomes extremely technical beyond most shooters skills. The right reticle with holdovers would benefit that 99%
My Schmidt Bender PMII Ultrashort 3-20x50 has 35 Mils of elevation adjustment which converts to 118 Moa.
And no IOR? Not a great test, The IOR Recon and IOR Crusader with 40mm tubes, high end glasses AND affordabel prices would match them all.
I have a NF ATACR 5-25 and have looked through others at the range, none compare to my NF. Yes its big, heavy, and expensive but it is durable and NF customer service is second to none. Additionally, I dont know of a scope with more elevation adjustment, 120 MOA! It will laugh at 1000, and keep on going.
I am definitely not in the SB, Kahles, etc market. I really liked you including Primary Arms, Burris, Strike Eagle, etc. A very crowded segment of the market. A few I would love to get a consistent comparison on: Nikon FX1000, Sig Sauer Tango 4, Althon Ares, and whichever Sightron you would add to the mix. I agree with one of the other posts that adding a SS makes sense as well, I believe their top of the line HD variable is about $1500.
Thanks for another great article.
JB
The only problem would find someone to do the small morgege to do the financing in order be able to get one of these beautiful scopes. Wow! Too rich for my blood. I guess I'll have to keep the old crappy iron sites.
How do you think about Bushnell Elite Tactical HDMR 3.5-21X50 ?
Best scope in the ($1200-1500) pricerange, and the g2dmr reticle is my personal favorite.
Old article but I'll comment anyways. For value vs performance it's hard to beat Nikon glass. I've gone to them for all of my rifles, spotting scopes and binoc's.
I feel like SWFA is a great scope at a bargain price. I'd like to see your opinion on it. A bargain at $250 vs $1000 scopes.
I've seen alot of comments on them both positive and negative. Hard to tell which to believe. I've already been taken by buying Osprey Scopes. Total junk.
I've had mine for about 10 years so I can only comment on mine. I saw lots of positive comments before buying and I havent been disappointed. I know they have come out with HD models in recent years so I cannot give any info on them but the fixed 20x that I have is great and I would say it rivals some much H more expensive scopes.
Maybe that would be a new blog. Budget scopes that really are worth it.
Nice article. I personally like getting other people’s opinions just to add additional knowledge. Sometimes it’s as simple as budget. Some may not have any restraints. I have a XTRII and it works for me. I also have several vortex viper FFP 6x24’s gen 1’s. They may be my favorite for my recreational shooting. You want your shooting abilities to match your equipment at least a bit. If you shoot at a non private range and are sporting a 8k rig everyone is checking your groups as they should.
Steiner M5Xi 5-25x56. Absolute best long range scope in existence. I can't believe that Vortex has 2 scopes on the list and Steiner didn't get a shout out. You must have used Google for all of the information in this article. Go back to your celebrity plastic surgeons.
Robert you need not agree with the writer, it's an opinion. Regardless of what is being reviewed, glass, uppers, lowers, ect. There will always be differing opinions. Don't take it personally Robert, she may actually educate you if you turn down the testosterone! Lastly, there is no reason to be an asshole and insult this individual. You're being a child, go back to your sandbox sir.
Your comment is rather hypocritical don't you think? Be a part of the solution not part of the problem Deputy8224!
Did you even read the article? There is a Steiner at #6
As the Army no long funds my optics, the goto optics I use and seen a lot of on the line are the Bushnell products. And since I like to keep my LR rig tacticly capable, the Elite DMR II 3-21x with a Horus H59 hits my sweet spot for under $1500. They also have a nice 3i reticle for those who prefer a less busy recticle and dont mind dialing.
You missed one of the other really GOOD 1000Yd Optics.... the Burris EliminatorIII
Will have to check that one out...hopefully it will be at SHOT.
I have the Burris Eliminator III. I love it, crystal clear, FFP, 1 battery can calculate 5,000 shots, does great with different light conditions, fog proof, the way you mount it only allows it to be mounted correctly so no need to use the bubbles to make sure it's all level. I highly recommend. Talked the store down to $1,462 for it. I'd buy it again at MSRP.