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Different Ammo in the Same Gun…Kaboom?

Your revolver is .357 Mag, but people say it shoots .38 Spl. Your AR-15 says it can shoot 5.56x45mm, but your friend says get .223. What's going on?

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Your revolver is a .357 magnum, but people say it shoots .38 special.

Your new AR-15 says it can shoot 5.56x45mm NATO, but your friends say just pick up a box of .223.

What’s going on here?

Has the world turned upside down? Don’t they realize we’re dealing with BULLETS here?

Popular Rifle Calibers, Part I
Popular Rifle Calibers, Part I

Have a cup of tea. Let’s talk. It’s possible that a firearm chambered for one round can safely fire another.

There could be any number of reasons for this. Some guns, like the Taurus Judge, are designed to do that, and with some, it’s just a happy coincidence.

Common Examples

The best example of this is the .357 Magnum revolver. You see, back in the long-long-ago, the 1930s, police officers were issued .38 Special revolvers as their sidearms.

About this time, bullet-proof vests were just coming into being and gangsters were using their car doors as cover during shoot-outs.

6. Popular .38 Special and .357 Magnum Ammo
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Well, .38 Special couldn’t pierce body armor and it wouldn’t go through car doors, so police departments looked for a solution.

Smith & Wesson provided one in a new round that used a standard .38 Special bullet but with a lot more power behind it. It was dubbed the .357 Magnum.

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The bullets have the same diameter, but the .357 could punch through the new body armor that was showing up on the streets.

As mentioned, the .357 Magnum has a lot more power, which means more pressure.

Regular .38 Special revolvers couldn’t handle the pressure, which meant that .357 Magnum revolvers made specifically to handle the load had to be developed.

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A Colt Python in .357 Magnum with a 2.5-inch barrel and a custom trigger done by Grant Cunningham. (From the collection of Diane Walls.)

As an added safety precaution the length of the .357 Magnum case was extended by 1/8 of an inch. This way, a person couldn’t load and close a .38 Special revolver with .357 Magnum ammunition and accidentally blow themselves up.

But because the diameter of both bullets are the same and the pressure in a .38 Special is less than that of a .357 Magnum, a .38 Special round can be safely fired in a .357 Magnum revolver or lever gun.

So to sum up in one sentence: You can shoot .38 Special in .357 Magnum guns, but you can’t shoot .357 Magnum in .38 Special guns.

Got it? If you want to learn more and get some great ammo recommendations, read our Best .38 Spl & .357 Mag Ammo article.

Under Pressure

Pressure is the big determining factor because a firearm rated for one kind of ammunition may have features beyond safety designed specifically for that round.

For instance, the 5.56x45mm NATO and the .223 Remington look the same, but the 5.56 is loaded for a higher pressure to increase velocity.

Chambers that are designed specifically for .223 have a narrower leade (the unrifled portion of the chamber ahead of the rifling) and a steeper angle of rifling. This is because the .223 was designed primarily for accuracy.

Popular 5.56 and .223 Ammo
Popular 5.56 and .223 Ammo

The 5.56 was designed to deliver more power and reliability, so the leade is wider and longer to allow more build-up of crud and a more gentle angle of rifling to accommodate the power of the 5.56.

Bottom line, .223 Remington is always safe to shoot from a 5.56 NATO chamber -- but you should avoid sending 5.56 ammo through a .223 chamber.

For all the details read more about AR-15 chambers and get the whole story on .223 vs 5.56 NATO vs .223 Wylde: Will Your Gun Blow?

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What about .308 and 7.62x51mm?

There’s a similar issue between .308 Winchester and 7.62X51mm. The .308 is a hotter load and the headspace is different from that of the 7.62. 

So while they look identical and people will say you can use them interchangeably, they’re different rounds.

Popular .308 Winchester and 7.62x51mm Ammo
Popular .308 Winchester and 7.62x51mm Ammo

Generally speaking, you can safely shoot 7.62mm in a .308 rifle, but you’re taking a risk going in the other direction.

These three examples aren’t the only ones out there.

Like with the .357 Magnum example above, you can shoot .44 Special (I bet you didn’t even know there was a .44 Special, huh? Learn something new every day!) in a .44 Magnum, but not the other way around.

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Taurus straight up advertises that you can shoot a .45 Long Colt or a .410 shotgun shell in their Taurus Judge. It’s just a matter of knowing what you can fire from your weapon safely.

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Conclusion

Like a lot of things with firearms, it all comes down to safety. When in doubt, use the ammunition that’s stamped on the firearm. But it’s nice to know that there are other options out there.

Know of some other firearms that can shoot two different cartridges? Tell us about them in the comments! Any other questions...we cover almost everything in our Beginner's Guide to Guns.

Want to learn more about calibers and bullet types? Check out our Common Calibers Guide.

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  • Can I shoot a 243 or 223 out a 22-250????
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  • can i shoot a pistol round in a revolver?
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  • Can I shoot my .38 special in a .357 magnum safely?
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  • So I can shoot my .38 special in my .357, right?
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    • Brian kirk

      Yep
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  • I have accidentally shot .380 rounds through a 9mm semi-auto handgun. The rounds fired OK but there wasn't enough energy to cycle the slide.
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  • Tube fed lever action rifles like the Henry can accommodate 22 short, long, and long rifle at the same time.
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  • And, here’s a humdinger. The .327 Federal Magnum can also fire, in descending order, the following ammo: .32 H&R Mag, .32 S&W Long, .32 S&W, and .32 ACP but you can’t fire the .327 in any of them in descending order. I love me some .327 Federal Magnum because it’s a bad#ss round AND it’s versatility.
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  • sig 357 and smith and wesson40/
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  • I have a Smith $ Wesson Revolver, it says I need .38 S&W SPL+p ammo???
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    • WITE KNIGHT

      +P indicates a little more powder. +P+ is very hot loads. Your pistol is indicating it will handle 38spl & 38spl +P.
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    • Dave

      You don't NEED SPL+p ammo. It means it is OK to use +p cartridges along with standard 38 special cartridges
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      • Gordon

        I gathered from the question that he didn't know what +P ammo was. 38 special +P is designed to be used in a more modern firearm than the older 38 specials. It's a step (although a small step) closer to a .357 Magnum in power. You can find the same thing in .45 ACP.
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  • I have a Smith and Wesson M&P 40 4 1/4" barrel.. It says caliber 40 S&W. Can I shoot the same ammo that I use for my Glock ? probably a silly question but would like an answer. It also sound like I can shoot a 357 cal in that S&W M&P 40. I would appreciate some advice. Thank you
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    • Sean

      If your Glock is also 40 S&W, then you can use the same ammo. 357 will not work in either gun, unless you do a 357 SIG conversion. Know that 357 magnum & 357 SIG are different rounds.
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  • How about shooting a 32-20 out of a 357,?
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    • David, PPT Editor

      I wouldn't recommend it. .38 Spl and .357 mag only out of a .357 mag gun.
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